Bad news for future MM users.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by NovakTwo

Your wishes should be granted early '08.

LOL, as you as you don't take a page from Castle's book and end up fulfilling that wish in 2009 or later.

[gixxer]

now thats just now right brian.

[BrianG]

lol, I hope NovakTwo knows I'm just playin'

[glassdoctor]

Man it would take a serious setup to convert that to BL!!!

btw.... you know that doesn't have a rotary under the hood ;)

[rotary rocket]

The rotary is doing just fine, she just has a new playmate...

[BrianG]

As far as nitro taking the majority of the market: Most of that is probably because back in the day, the only way to get decent power was to use gas. Even today, many nitro people still snicker when they see someone plugging batteries in any vehicle... until of course they see it run. :) And then there are some that actually like the noise, smell, cleanup, tuning headaches, etc...

[mkrusedc]

Just thought I post Joe Ford's response from The Radio Control Zone forum.

There is no difference between controllers that left on day 1 and controllers that left today. It's luck of the draw whether your specific processor on your specific controller is going to handle that much voltage. Most will not as the controller was not designed to handle anything over 3s lipo. 4s works on most...5s I wouldn't even try and I WORK HERE.

[BrianG]

Well, that's weird, because I have two different MM ESCs and they have different FET part numbers. The older MMs have the same part # as the ones Quark uses, while the newer MMs are different.

well i got my esc. about 1 1/2 months ago and it works fine, got luckey i guess, i just wonder why the newer ones dont work??

any way guess i will be running novak next season

hopefully it has a little more grunt, thats all it needs compared to the hv 4.5 that i have(had , its smoked right now)

[mkrusedc]

Brian,
Here is the thread and my response. I just could not resist.
http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...223182&page=52

[Finnster]

So has this issue w/ 14cells been confirmed then? I know of a couple reports, but is this def a widespread issue w/ the newer batches of controllers rather than some big assumptions being made about a few off controllers?

[snellemin]

R&D is the killer, I should know since I work in such a devision. Tooling is the other cashcow.

[lutach]

R&D is a killer when you're designing something completely different. They already have the MPU software OK. I know this beacuse Videoton of Hungary sent me quotes for a prototype product and they changed the quote 8 times before they had it right, but this was for a new product. Now for products they already make, they might change for something compatible and that is it. I would like to see a system that could also run the sensored Aveox. Does Novak have their own engineers?

[NovakTwo]

Each system requires new tooling for 2 multi-layer PCBs, case, water-"resistant" seal, heatsinks, packaging, instructions, art work, advertising The software usually needs to be updated with each new release to add new features---lipo cut-off circuitry, motor rotation, etc. etc.---so each system project starts from almost ground zero.

Then a number of prototypes need to be designed and mostly hand built. Then the beta units have to be tested. Most of the other sub projects don't begin until the board design is locked-in. Then all the parts for the project can be ordered---some with 8-12 week lead times. Novak has 4 engineers---5 really, but 1 is the Operations Manager.

Originally Posted by lutach

R&D is a killer when you're designing something completely different. They already have the MPU software OK. I know this beacuse Videoton of Hungary sent me quotes for a prototype product and they changed the quote 8 times before they had it right, but this was for a new product. Now for products they already make, they might change for something compatible and that is it. I would like to see a system that could also run the sensored Aveox. Does Novak have their own engineers?

[snellemin]

True that the cost won't be as great as designing something from scratch, but what will the cost be for creating an "enhancement" of a current product? 15-40K? Is the market big enough to cover that cost? Or could it be that they are playing the cat and mouse game with the consumer market...them waiting for a big scale electric RC to hit the market and then they'll follow with the electronics.