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01.28.2008, 03:59 PM

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or are the holes in the lower plate large enough so they fit through?
No the holes arent large enough for them to fit through. Mine does not have the legs so thats why I was wondering why he did that. It looks like some sort of mod he did and I was wondering the reason why? I was thinking he wanted the motor pinion to contact the spur higer up so the motor could be moved farter to the side and allow more room for the battery.

Even with the spacers on the battery side TVP mine is tight for a 50mm wide pack. I ordered a 52T spur so I could use a bigger pinion and make more space. I was just thinking that this might have been his intention but wasnt sure.


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01.28.2008, 03:56 PM

BTW, BashOn, how much did the whole thing cost you?

I might do one in the future.


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01.28.2008, 04:20 PM

What room can you get with the 52 spur? (width) 50mm is okay, but might be tight for some packs.

if it's higher, it sits more to the side with the same pinion/spur. perhaps it allows more clearance in the rear for larger motors too. I don't exactly know what to expect, since i am still waiting for mine to arrive.
   
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01.28.2008, 05:25 PM

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What room can you get with the 52 spur? (width) 50mm is okay, but might be tight for some packs.

if it's higher, it sits more to the side with the same pinion/spur. perhaps it allows more clearance in the rear for larger motors too. I don't exactly know what to expect, since i am still waiting for mine to arrive.
a 52T spur will push the motor 2.5mm farther over to the side and get you an addional 2.5mm of battery space. Also with the bigger spur you can go another tooth or 2 bigger on the pinion to get the same overall gear ratio (or close to it) getiing another1mm or so in battery space. It might not sound like much, but that extra 3-3.5mm will allow me to fit my TrueRC 8000mah 5s pack right down in there for a nice tight fit. It firs now, but its litterealy touching the side of the motor and I'm afraind the heat from the motor may have an ill effect on the battery if its touching. The 3mm is just a little breathing room for this big lunkewr of a pack. The 5000mah Enerland based packs drop right in and fit like a glove with no worries at all.


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01.28.2008, 05:44 PM

Serum,

I stole the idea for those little legs on the motor mount from knotted, who is doing almost the same build. I just used some Shoe Goo to attach some spacers to the bottom of the motor mount. This raises the 1521 so that it doesn't hit the vertical plate on the motor side. It isn't a problem with a 1515 but the longer can on the 1521 required more clearance.

As far as cost goes for this thing.............................its still adding up.

Just the power system: Battery, ESC and Motor add up to a little more than a grand.

I need my head checked basically..............

I picked up some screws I needed from the hardware store today at lunch, and my balancer for the flightpower came in today so I should be up and running soon. My 5.5 bullet connectors should be in tomorrow or Wednesday. I would have just soldered as someone suggested but I am still finishing painting the body and getting the last bits together.

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01.28.2008, 05:03 PM

Well I didn't get any pics as I said on my lunch hour. Will do so in the next day. However here is what the conversion for the steering looks like and how to set it all up.

http://www.savage-central.com/ftopic2361.html
   
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01.28.2008, 05:07 PM

that's a LONG time ago! nowadays the savage comes with a camshaft saver, and there is no need in modifying that kyosho/ofna saver. Since HPI came out with their saver this is an unneeded mod.
   
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01.28.2008, 05:09 PM

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that's a LONG time ago! nowadays the savage comes with a camshaft saver, and there is no need in modifying that kyosho/ofna saver. Since HPI came out with their saver this is an unneeded mod.
Well... didn't I say my Savage was over 2+ years old sitting on a shelf for that long?

Now I gotta check to see if the new steering setup will work with my old hag of a savage...
   
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01.28.2008, 05:13 PM

Yeah, no problem, that's a 1:1 fit. It's easier to go that route than to do the conversion as described in you link.
   
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01.28.2008, 10:35 PM

Hi,

I have a set of conversion on the way too. Looking at the few posts above, I'm a little worried about my battery choice now. I bought 2 5S 5000mah packs from HK & they are advertised as 160mm X 51mm X 40mm. The 51mm width is a concern if it has the potential not to fit. Can I turn the battery on its side so that the height is now 51mm while the width becomes 40mm ?

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01.28.2008, 10:54 PM

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Hi,

I have a set of conversion on the way too. Looking at the few posts above, I'm a little worried about my battery choice now. I bought 2 5S 5000mah packs from HK & they are advertised as 160mm X 51mm X 40mm. The 51mm width is a concern if it has the potential not to fit. Can I turn the battery on its side so that the height is now 51mm while the width becomes 40mm ?

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Yep. No problem height wise for the 51mm. Should work w/ no issues. And with a little setup work you should be able to fit the 51 in there too. Its tight for the 51, but you should be able to get it to work depending on your gearing.


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01.28.2008, 11:55 PM

Hi jhautz,

Thanks for the quick response.

I just saw in another thread started by knotted that HPI will have big bore shocks for the savage. 2008 is going to be good year for my savages. Bought 2 of these in 2006 & have not played with them much at all in 2007.

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01.29.2008, 12:02 AM

BTW are these the Zippy lipos? I recently bought 3 of the 4s 5000mah packs I use in one of my buggies and they are pretty nice for the $$. Only a couple cycles on them so far they seem to be not bad for the cash.


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Just thought I'd post an update. I installed the electronics last night and programmed the MGM using the USB link, which is a very cool feature I think. I reversed the motor wires because the motor was spinning the wrong way and got everything ready for an indoor test, just to see if everything was working. Well I managed to screw something up with the motor direction because it was still wrong and this time the motor drove the spur in the reverse direction and stripped to teeth off the 1st gear (the only plastic one in the three speed). Not only that but it broke the one way bearing which now is a two way........

Lesson - When you are dead tired don't work on your expensive RC stuff.

So tomorrow I will have another 1st gear and should be good to go. I still haven't built a barrier to stop the battery from crashing against the spur in the event of a major nose dive... Probably work on that tonight.
   
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01.31.2008, 06:09 PM

I also ordered the 52T hardened steel spur from Golden Horizons. As jhautz talked about it will add some needed space between the battery and the motor. I must say the metal on metal pinion/spur setup is really noisy and vibrates everything. The sound is pretty harsh. Kershaw sells some 5mm mod 1 delrin pinions with brass centers that might be worth trying. I just don't know how they would hold up though, probably not last long.
   
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