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TexasSP · 01.12.2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_

Robin had a third party make UE parts. I'm shopping around for prices, people are looking for work right now! I can't imagine gathering gears and making super 6's or otb's would be that hard either. You can call me R/C Mafia

Harold,

I have a contact here in Houston who does excellent work and already has a product line for the rc plane market. LMK. Their work has always been top notch and pricing fair.

I am behind you. If one doesn't patent and/or copyright there work, then it's stupid of them to think someone else won't use it.

Rivermaxx · 02:35 PM

I believe robin(UE) is taking legal action on this against Billy Trucks at least thats what he says. I have had many dealings with scott (billy trucks) and he is a real stand up guy never sent me a bad part.. But him selling copies of ue items .Well I really dont agree with this. Unless UE gave him permission which is not the case.

_paralyzed_ · 01.12.2009, 05:50 PM

I absolutely do not agree with selling parts under the UE name that did not come from Robin Oury. What Billy Trucks did was wrong. What I want to do is offer 7075 parts for the maxx line of trucks. If this ever happens they would be clearly marked (R/C Mafia perhaps

) so as to avoid any confusion as to whether or not they are UE parts. I enjoy polishing parts, it's therapeutic (mind numbing) to me. So why not......

jayjay283 · 01.12.2009, 06:00 PM

Liking the RC Mafia name... Just UE having those 1/8 diffs in my hand is like having my bawlz in full grip. You just know you have the best stuff out there lol.. Make a name for yourself. Ill support ya, and Plett making that chassis, good stuff, if Robin wont do it why not

JERRY2KONE · **I agree. -** 01.12.2009, 06:45 PM

I agree with you JayJay. I hope Harold goes big in his quest. What Billytrucks did wrong was to put the UE name to his counterfit parts. Claiming that they have anything to do with UE is definitely a no no. Putting out a like copy of similar part is done every single day in this world even if someone does have a patent. It all depends on how the patent is written, what provisions are made in the paperwork, and lastly how it is advertised.

If Harold can come up with a good product that is fairly priced then I for one will support him and purchase his work, not to mention help him with suggestions along the way. I will still make buys from RCM and even UE if Robin ever gets off of his butt and makes any. That is what we have been trying to tell him all along. If he spent some money and made parts then he would not be wasting his money fighting people like Billytrucks in the first place. Billytrucks is not thet only one fueling this problem. He is merely a symptom to this issue.

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Originally Posted by jayjay283

Liking the RC Mafia name... Just UE having those 1/8 diffs in my hand is like having my bawlz in full grip. You just know you have the best stuff out there lol.. Make a name for yourself. Ill support ya, and Plett making that chassis, good stuff, if Robin wont do it why not

Rivermaxx · 07:23 PM

UE robin not making parts(or getting parts made)I believe has alot to do with his people skills. I will leave it at that. I was pretty neutral on the whole thing that happen and posted what Billy truck had to say on the UE forum and robin went in and changed everything around so people couldnt see the what the accused had too say. And then took away my editing abilities. Now thats messed up! Whats he got too hide unless their is some truth to what billytrucks had to say. Ever hear that saying that "the truth hurts" I am not saying what billy did was right in any way but for robin to go and edit my posting is really childish thing to do.

Harold if you got the skills to make billet parts you go for it. As long as you dont copy anyones designs and make a good product I dont see any problems.

JERRY2KONE · **Correct. -** 01.12.2009, 08:34 PM

You hit the nail on the head RiverMaxx. Robin could use some lessons in introducing some TACT in his conversational skills. He is old school and tends to be a bit brash even in the simplest conversations. He has a right to be proud of his work with the UE Maxx line of products, but if he feels just the least bit threatened by a conversation he shuts you down. He controls the UE site like a little kid who does not want anyone to play with his toys, unless they do it his way. We have already seen his temper on UE. If you post one little thing that does not agree with his opinion he will lock up the thread and banish you from the site, not to mention change your words in a way to promote his own thoughts or feelings. BUT the UE forum is his site, and you have to play by his rules. Meaning that his opinion is the only one that counts. Reality bites.

jayjay283 · 01.12.2009, 08:41 PM

that about sums it up Jerry. I was worried about getting him( robin) mad and never see my parts, so I kissed butt. I worried about that with Mike too, as I bought 20 pinions 1 at a time not knowing how to gear my truck, that would anger me something fierce having to ship out 1 pinion at a time to a retard, but Mike shipped them to me and didn't stab me in the eye with a fork. Good folks

JERRY2KONE · 09:55 PM

CORRECT JayJay. That is the difference between Robin and Mike. Mike may even think that way at some point because we can all be a pain in the ass at times, but he believes in good customer service and treats us with respect for the good of the RCM business. I really tried to like Robin and understand him because he had a nice thing going at UE, but when you bang your head against the wall for so long you have to finally give that up for your own health and well being. He is just too hard headed for his own good. I do respect Robin for what he tried to do with the R/C community as a whole, and his products are top notch for sure, but for some reason he can only see things one way. HIS WAY. He refuses to compromise or even concied that there may be a better way to do things. That is just too bad for us.

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Originally Posted by jayjay283

that about sums it up Jerry. I was worried about getting him( robin) mad and never see my parts, so I kissed butt. I worried about that with Mike too, as I bought 20 pinions 1 at a time not knowing how to gear my truck, that would anger me something fierce having to ship out 1 pinion at a time to a retard, but Mike shipped them to me and didn't stab me in the eye with a fork. Good folks

Rivermaxx · 01.12.2009, 09:48 PM

After seeing a thread about you guys getting together and getting Mike a nice christmas present like the custom made body and a digital frame to put all of your trucks pictures in. That says alot how everyone feels about mike. I can allready say I like this forum alot and only been on here for a little over a week. I am looking foward to building my conversion and taking in all the information and knowledge you guys have to offer about brushless setups. Thanks in advance all you guys!

highflier · 01.12.2009, 10:05 PM

I did not read the whole thread so I am hoping this is not a re-post.

The classy way to make knock off parts is to get a license. That way the original designer still gets a piece of the pie, The new guy is upstanding and does not hurt his reputation. Plus gets true design data and good marketing positioning.

Think about it. Would you pay 25.00 more for they chassis if it was to cover the license fee?

Highflier

TexasSP · 01.13.2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

You hit the nail on the head RiverMaxx. Robin could use some lessons in introducing some TACT in his conversational skills. He is old school and tends to be a bit brash even in the simplest conversations. He has a right to be proud of his work with the UE Maxx line of products, but if he feels just the least bit threatened by a conversation he shuts you down. He controls the UE site like a little kid who does not want anyone to play with his toys, unless they do it his way. We have already seen his temper on UE. If you post one little thing that does not agree with his opinion he will lock up the thread and banish you from the site, not to mention change your words in a way to promote his own thoughts or feelings. BUT the UE forum is his site, and you have to play by his rules. Meaning that his opinion is the only one that counts. Reality bites.

That is exactly what Robin did to me. I typed up a short opinion that was fairly well written then he banned me, changed it, and lied claiming he didn't believe my credentials (and never gave me the chance to prove it). I tried to do business with him back in 2001. I made multiple attempts by phone and email and when I got in touch Robin came across as a jerk and would not answer simple questions.

sweetride4me · 01.13.2009, 08:47 PM

Now you too River??? You, Lito, myself, Duster... The UE family is moving...

we have all entered the dark side...

Rivermaxx · 10:34 PM

I think so lol I am still keeping my nitros still though. This new mmm combo got me excited to build a brushless though. Its all litos fault for posting his brushless revo conversion on the UE forum. Not too mention you know who changing my post too say something totally different ( Stealing my Intellectual postings). Btw there is one guy on here looking for a sweetstrobe setup. Darkside??? I thought I was going too the light!!! LOL

JERRY2KONE · **Not to worry -** 01.13.2009, 10:57 PM

Not to worry RiverMaxx once you get your first BL conversion running you will begin to wondeer why you even have nitro stuff laying around

. Most within a year of starting BL begin to get rid of all their nitro stuff, but hang on to at least one just so they can lie to themselves about not abandoning teh nitro's all together. This is a much cleaner, and less labor intensive side. They call it the dark side because you get more sleep when all you have to do is plug em in and go for it.