WTF is wrong with some people?

Yes of course I am aware of that. My point was roughly 100 years ago, they would be the norm in many places. And I would imagine that many people on this board come from families like this just a generation or so removed.

[redshift]

KiddofSpeed does Jerry, this site has been in my favs for many years- www.elenafilatova.com

And yes it is largely uninhabitable for at least a 2 hundred
mile radius. Won't stop this chick or her Kawi, awesome site.

[suicideneil]

Thats 100% true- in ye olden days divorce was a rare thing as the government wouldnt be there to hand out cash and support to newly single mums, you had to stick together for the sake of the family, silly little arguments about money and trust wouldnt split up families. Nower days people get divorced left, right & centre knowing that the government will support them and the kids; that, and young girls get knocked up knowing the same is true- they wont have to work much, if at all until the kids reach the age of secondary school ( in the Uk ). In the mean time the kids are neglected due to lack of father & general disinterest- how many 16-17 girls do you know who want to raise a family and provide for them as best as possible? Very few is the answer, they'd rather be out every night getting pissed with their mates or sleeping around since the 'specialness' ( for lack of a better word ) of sex, aka making love has lost most of its meaning; sex is no different to kissing to alot of young people, hence the increasingly frequent number of 14 and 15 yearold parents.

Abstinance/ contraception ftw

[PBO]

No hard feelings with me 76Bentley I enjoy a spirited discussion as much as anyone

As a quick aside. Not sure if anyone cares about sailing but Sailing Anarchy has mostly lawless forums if that appeals, this is the political forum...http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showforum=2

Here are the forum rules;

" * I give up, This forum is for all aholes who cannot keep their little opines to themselves.
* Do not report any posts in this forum, I am tired of recieving them.
* If you don't want to be attacked, Do not post here.
* As long as you do not post users real names, have fun"

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76Bentley- I never close my mind to anything even though I know alot. I am opinionated, but my opinions change as my wealth of knowledge grows. I followed all of your links and have learned alot from this thread. I'll continue to try and get people to open there eyes and take the second step in thought, rather than accepting everything at face value. Good stuff.

Redshift- That link was awesome, I had never seen chernobyl pics or even read about it. You have definitely peaked my curiosity.

PBO- settle down

[redshift]

Yeah I have a bit of morbid fascination for that stuff I guess, just think how few people were responsible for that catastrophe. The pictures are just astonishing. She does a hell of a job putting you 'there'. You really need a few hours to take it all in.

[PBO]

Originally Posted by redshift

Yeah I have a bit of morbid fascination for that stuff I guess, just think how few people were responsible for that catastrophe. The pictures are just astonishing. She does a hell of a job putting you 'there'. You really need a few hours to take it all in.

It was basically two ego's & vulnerable design wasn't it? The alpha ego not listening to the beta ego & taking chances with heating/cooling exercises...if my memory is working today

Then...

[redshift]

Good poster boys for sterilization right here...

Hoooooly sheeet!

[TexasSP]

I have a simple question: How does the Duggar family negatively affect you?

Now the people living off the system and popping out babies like rabbits is a different story. Of course anyone popping out kids left and right and not taking care of them is an issue.

[redshift]

That's pretty close PBO. From Elena herself:

"On the Friday evening of April 25, 1986, the reactor crew at Chernobyl-4, prepared to run a test the next day to see how long the turbines would keep spinning and producing power if the electrical power supply went off line. This was a dangerous test, but it had been done before. As a part of the preparation, they disabled some critical control systems - including the automatic shutdown safety mechanisms.

Shortly after 1:00 AM on April 26, the flow of coolant water dropped and the power began to increase.

At 1:23 AM, the operator moved to shut down the reactor in its low power mode and a domino effect of previous errors caused an sharp power surge, triggering a tremendous steam explosion which blew the 1000 ton cap on the nuclear containment vessel and rised it in the air.

Some of the 211 control rods melted and then a second explosion, whose cause is still the subject of disagreement among experts, threw out fragments of the burning radioactive fuel core and allowed air to rush in - igniting several tons of graphite insulating blocks.

Once graphite starts to burn, its almost impossible to extinguish. It took 9 days and 5000 tons of sand, boron, dolomite, clay and lead dropped from helicopters to put it out. The radiation was so intense that many of those brave pilots died.

It was this graphite fire that released most of the radiation into the atmosphere and troubling spikes in atmospheric radiation were measured as far as thousands of miles away.

These were inexcusable errors of design.

The causes of the accident are described as a fateful combination of human error and imperfect technology. Andrei Sakharov said, that Chernobyl accident demonstrates that our system cannot manage modern technology.

In keeping with a long tradition of Soviet justice, they imprisoned several people who worked on that shift - regardless of their guilt. 25 from the shift died.

Radiation will stay in the Chernobyl area for tens thousand years, but humans may begin repopulating the area in about 600 years - give or take three centuries. The experts predict that, by then, the most dangerous elements will have disappeared - or been sufficiently diluted into the rest of the world's air, soil and water. If our government can somehow find the money and political will power to finance the necessary scientific research, perhaps a way will be discovered to neutralize or clean up the contamination sooner. Otherwise, our distant ancestors will have to wait untill the radiation diminishes to a tolerable level. If we use the lowest scientific estimate, that will be 300 years from now......some scientists say it may be as long as 900 years.

I think it will be 300, but people often accuse me of being an optimist."

[PBO]

I also remember seeing footage of prisoners being given the chance of freedom if they helped fill the damaged reactor. They were given lead coats & told to run!

Doubt any of them would be around today

[JERRY2KONE]

Originally Posted by PBO

I also remember seeing footage of prisoners being given the chance of freedom if they helped fill the damaged reactor. They were given lead coats & told to run!

Doubt any of them would be around today

Actually NatGeo runs a documentory story about this. It is a one hour segment describing the whole incident, and also showing video footage of how they forced the military to close the place up using lead vests and shuvels to move all of the debris back into the reactor area, before sealing the whole thing up in a concrete casing. Each man was only allowed to work for about 90 seconds, and received more than a life time dosage of radiation. The Commander put in charge of the operation is still alive and conducts and interview explaining how he was ordered to handle the matter, because there was no one else qualified to deal with such a catastrophy. He was ashamed having to order men to do such a terrible hardship that would eventually bring them an early death, but you did not dare refuse.

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Originally Posted by calvinshardy09

I was about to visit a university in the country earlier today. I stopped at a gas station to find a toilet. Automotive products on this site who also has a good cleaning things the heap. Look at their website, their days, their prices are very competitive.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[josh9mille]

Originally Posted by calvinshardy09

I was about to visit a university in the country earlier today. I stopped at a gas station to find a toilet. Automotive products on this site who also has a good cleaning things the heap. Look at their website, their days, their prices are very competitive.

This right here is proof of the "Idiocracy Theory" or also known as the "Dumbing Down of Society"

And since we are on the topic of having kids and overpopulation.....did you know that having kids is hereditary? Because if your parents didnt have kids there is a very good chance you wont have kids either!