Sidewinder SC

You don't need a 4-pole to pull away from 10.5's, any cm36 would easly outpower them.

[hootie7159]

Hey Patrick...can we get some specs on the sidewinder sct esc? Thx!

He said earlier in the thread that it is very close to the original Mamba Max. The MM was rated at 100 amps continuous. He has also said that it can handle 3s with some care.

[bruce750i]

About ten minutes.

[AL3xGR]

Originally Posted by bruce750i

About ten minutes.

Could you make any video with the 2s and the 3s battery?
Also,what gearing did you had?(Top speed?)

[AL3xGR]

I need some help here : http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28499

I finally got around to installing mine this week in my Slash 4x4.

I had to re solder some 4mm bullets to the MMP, I sold the Sidewinder ESC at the track Saturday, so I never ran it with that ESC.

I started off with the gearing at 15/54
Start Power Medium
High timing
100% max fwd

Turnigy 5200mah, 30c 2s

WOW!!
This thing rips!
Way more balls off the bottom than the Velineon with the same gearing and ESC settings, had no trouble pulling the wheels up from dead stops or a slow roll...
ran about 15-20 minutes on the street in front of my house, few trips through mine and the neighbors yard chasing curious cats.
Motor temps at 119 and esc at 109, ambient temps around 70's

So...
I took it back to the lab, threw my 19t pinion in it, jacked the timing up to highest, and start power to high,
grabbed a fresh battery ( same specs) and then zip tied my GPS to it for a speed run.

These are the same specs I used with a 3200mah 3s battery to get 61.9 before on my Velineon, this setup on a 2s I got 49.8!

I cant wait to get the Deans connector soldered on my 3s, I used to use TRX connectors on everything, im in the process of getting all my batts switched over.

I think i'll break 70 with the 3s,
I wont get to run it on the track this weekend, as I have to work, but I should be able to get it out there sometime next week.

Bottom line, go buy one!
Throw the Velineon setup on eBay and buy this already!

[Thomas Porfert]

Originally Posted by DoogieLee

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I cant wait to get the Deans connector soldered on my 3s, I used to use TRX connectors on everything, im in the process of getting all my batts switched over.

I think i'll break 70 with the 3s,
I wont get to run it on the track this weekend, as I have to work, but I should be able to get it out there sometime next week.

Just remember this system not rated or intended to run in a 4x4 short course on 3s. Doing so runs the risk of burning up the motor and voiding the warranty. Please do so at your own risk. If you decide to go this route, just keep the run times short and keep a very close on the motor temps. Set the timing advance to lowest, start with a conservative gear ratio and run some torque limit to minimize amp draw and heat. Good luck, and glad to hear you like it!

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support.

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert

Just remember this system not rated or intended to run in a 4x4 short course on 3s. Doing so runs the risk of burning up the motor and voiding the warranty. Please do so at your own risk. If you decide to go this route, just keep the run times short and keep a very close on the motor temps. Set the timing advance to lowest, start with a conservative gear ratio and run some torque limit to minimize amp draw and heat. Good luck, and glad to hear you like it!

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support.

So, would it be safe to assume that the new Short Course Motor will be the one to use with 3s in a 4x4 SC?
I'll just keep this one on 2s for now...
Keep up the good work!

[Arct1k]

No the SCT motor is 2s in a 4x4 - They are saying use the 1415/12 IIRC for 3S.

Originally Posted by Arct1k

No the SCT motor is 2s in a 4x4 - They are saying use the 1415/12 IIRC for 3S.

I should've clairified, I meant the new motors, which I believe are the 1415/12 you mentioned.
Not the one that comes in the Sidewinder SCT Combo

[Thomas Porfert]

Originally Posted by Arct1k

No the SCT motor is 2s in a 4x4 - They are saying use the 1415/12 IIRC for 3S.

Originally Posted by DoogieLee

I should've clairified, I meant the new motors, which I believe are the 1415/12 you mentioned.
Not the one that comes in the Sidewinder SCT Combo

Exactly right, the 1415/1Y that will be matched with a Mamba Max Pro is designed for 3 or 4s on a 4x4 Short course. More details will be available shortly, still waiting on the motors to come in from China. Expect them sometime before the end of the year.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

[skellyo]

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert

Exactly right, the 1415/1Y that will be matched with a Mamba Max Pro is designed for 3 or 4s on a 4x4 Short course. More details will be available shortly, still waiting on the motors to come in from China. Expect them sometime before the end of the year.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

RE: 1415/1Y
Is that production quantities coming in before year end, or test units?

Finally got to the track today, ran about 6 packs through it and it was awesome!
No trouble clearing a double to table top, plenty of straight away speed.
My handling was off a bit though, as I had a 2650 in it before, but once I made a few changes it was great.
After each pack I temp'd it 130-140.
I had it geared 15-50 running the center diff and Proline Caliber M4's
Great job CC!!!

Edit: I was geared 16/50

[twisted8]

anyone having problems with this motor esc combo ?

heres my problem : (copied and posted this to a couple of places)

so i went out and bought one and put it in my hpi mini trophy. i ran it the 1st pack geared 14/87. truck was slow and every once in awhile it would cog and make a squeal noise and not move. i would have to get completely off the throttle to get it to go again. temps never got hot.could hold my finger on the motor for 10 + seconds.

so today i geared up 3 teeth. truck was faster but not omg faster.then it started doing the same thing, squealing noise and then i would have to get off the throttle to get it to go again. so after 5 minutes the truck stopped, no power, just steering. the esc thermaled and the motor was hot but i could still touch it (didnt temp it as i ran my other truck)...after the esc cooled i ran it again and it made the same noise but this time nothing got hot. i temped the motor after 4 minutes and it was 120.

i have to call castle to see whats going on, im not sure what that noise is. sounded like a seized bearing but this is only two runs, not even complete runs.

any one have nay ideas ?

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i talked to castle today and the tech said sounded like something was wrong with the motor. he told me they would send one out to me or if the local shop had another in stock they would send it to them so i didnt have to wait if the shop was ok with that and they were.

ill get this one in the truck and give it a whirl.

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well i got it together and went out today. 17/87 and it never got hot to where i couldnt touch it for more then 2-3 seconds and when i did temp it it never was above 120 degeress(motor) .the problem i have with temping mine is it takes so long to get the duratrax temp gauge in a place to read the motor temp it starts to cool down.with the cage and body its pia. so for now i am using the "touch" method.iam also not running the fan as there really is no room.(hpi mini trophey)

now for that noise...the squeal or chatter... i did hear it with this motor too but only twice and not as bad.

truck was faster with the same set up, gearing and battery just different systems (both cc sidewinder sc systems) so there was something wrong with the 1st one for sure...the second one with the same noise ? idk is this noise normal ?, is it a cogging noise ?(none like i heard before, coggin is usually a stuttering and a low ringing noise.this is a squeal.

on the truck i did notice the rear bearing on the gear box, the one that sits in the aluminum and is held in place by the top gear cover(its on the shaft with the spur and slipper) looks like it is spinning in the case, like the case isnt tight enough. the bearing isnt seized and i dont see how this can cause the truck to stop..

idk, its got me scratching my head. what your guys thoughts ?