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thzero 03.28.2011 02:54 PM

They just wanted to yank yer chains. Surprised though, I ordered one of their dogbones as it basically fit what I was going to do and everything went through without issue.

Jahay 03.28.2011 02:57 PM

i guess they were just holding my money till it came into stock... But they could have responsed to my emails at least! i got very worried...

Overdrive rc sorted me out, but im yet to receive anything

it has been over 5 weeks now since i started trying to get these hubs!

Jahay 03.29.2011 07:06 AM

I am now very close to sending everything off for anodising.

I just need to prepare what arrived today in the post ;)

After 6 weeks of waiting... New Era messed me around for 5 weeks and then overdrive rc managed to get these out in just over a week!!!!

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...29113805-1.jpg

In order to get these to fit with my savage lower arms, i will need to grind down these protruding alloys nubs. Nothing a bench grinder cant fix
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-29113940.jpg


Thanks to brian on here, another reason i upgraded to LST Hubs was because i can utilise 3 wheel bearings which will help the hubs cope with the heavy Baja Wheels.
This is how they would sit inside the hub
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-29114251.jpg

In order to get the 3rd bearing (centre bearing) to sit snug inside the hub as it wasnt originally deisnged for a 3rd bearing, i will need to wrap the outside of the bearing in a single layer of cello-tape. This is enough to get it to fit snug. Anything thicker wouldnt allow the bearing to sit.

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-29114358.jpg


I even tried to see if i could use 4 wheel bearings, but due to the axle increasing in diameter toward the shaft end, the axle cant sit deep enough. So close, but no cigar...

comparison of how where the axle pin sits with 3 and 4 bearings

3 Bearings
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-29114506.jpg

4 Bearings
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-29114549.jpg


Anyway... i think i have all the alloy now, so i can send this all off for anodising asap.

Nixpus 03.29.2011 09:32 AM

Dang boy! Thats looking absolutely great :)

Will be interesting to see how it pans out... and if the 3rd bearing has any effect except (minimal) added drag. I do love how you always go all in with you conversions!

Jahay 03.29.2011 04:27 PM

Cheers bud... i just hope the 3rd bearing does help the larger axle bearing with the strain.

Decided to get things moving... Started grinding down the lst hubs to fit in the savage arms... Im now ready to send everything off...

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-29200810.jpg

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-29200936.jpg

Cant wait to put all this back together!

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-29201217.jpg

thzero 03.29.2011 04:34 PM

Hope it does what you want but I'm not sure it will help; the forces should be on the outer and inner bearings because that is where the flex points on the axles will be I would imagine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 402903)
Cheers bud... i just hope the 3rd bearing does help the larger axle bearing with the strain.


Jahay 03.30.2011 07:06 AM

That very true bud...

Considering what you have said, i took a close look at the hubs and bearings...

There is around 4mm of play for the 3rd centre bearing.

I will make a 12x16x4mm spacer made up which will push the 3rd bearing towards the shaft supporting the load on the larger,weaker 22mm bearing.

Hopefully this should help take a little stress from the heavy baja wheels... If it works, then awesome, if it doesnt, then its all good anyway...


Just wondering... is it possible to get custom bearings made up?
Because it would be nice to have a 8x16x8mm bearing as the third bearing....???

brian015 03.30.2011 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 402904)
Hope it does what you want but I'm not sure it will help; the forces should be on the outer and inner bearings because that is where the flex points on the axles will be I would imagine.

The way these fail is that the force on the tire/wheel pivots the axle on the outer bearing and the skinny 22mm inner bearing fails. Anything that can help support the axle on the inner side of the outer bearing should help these sustain that force.


Josh - I agree that having the third bearing closer to the inner bearing is best.

Jahay 03.30.2011 07:34 AM

Thanks for chiming in brian. How have your wheel bearings been holding up since you ran the baja wheels and third bearing?

brian015 03.30.2011 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 402966)
Thanks for chiming in brian. How have your wheel bearings been holding up since you ran the baja wheels and third bearing?

They've been holding up fine - but I haven't had a chance to run it that often - with the nicer weather arriving, I'll be able to get this out more and see how everything is holding up.

Jahay 03.31.2011 10:02 AM

Finally ready for some anodising!!!!

Thought i would take a before shot of all the alloy that is being sent off. I have decided to leave my shock towers and my brace kit silver to add a little contrast otherwise the red would be way to overpowering imo

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-31131016.jpg

I also took some comparison shots of the LST 2 Alloy hubs and the Suspension conversion kit hubs...

This looks like they will add some weight, but should add stability to this brutal build and should deal with any 60mph cart wheels hopefully *:twisted:

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-31132132.jpg

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-31132121.jpg

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...3-31132629.jpg

Jahay 04.09.2011 08:10 AM

Little Update

Look what arrived today

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-09121848.jpg

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-09121917.jpg



Not exactly the red i was hoping for, but i am still happy with it...
I was hoping for this finish on the integy RX box


http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-09122735.jpg

Some of my alloy mounts look a little dull, but i guess that is because i didnt prepare the surface and polish them before the anodising...

Let the build commence :yes:

brian015 04.09.2011 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 403848)

Let the build commence :yes:

I agree - get building!

(The red looks nice - should be a good looking truck)

Bazzokajoe 04.09.2011 10:52 AM

Cant wait to see this truck go together :D

It was epic before... but now... its in another league :P

Jahay 04.09.2011 08:11 PM

I originally thought i wasnt that happy, but it has grown on me more and more, and i prefer the colour... Something different to the usual polished reds you always see... Im liking the "matt" finish.

Im not going to be putting too many pics up in this thread, as i will create a whole new build thread from start to finish with this.

So just some teaser pics...

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-10002753.jpg

http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/a...4-10002857.jpg



Small Review on Carbon Arms
Finding a method to mount my sway bar with the Carbon arms, is proving difficult. There is no original mounting hole...
Mounting the bottom shocks to the arm is also difficult. Plus, i feel there is also a lot of binding. Yes they look really good, and i believe they will perform well offering great rigidity, but i may sacrifice all that and put the stock arms back on...


This will not be a build i can put together so quickly.
I am waiting on little things like shock bolts, and having to customise this and that to make things fit and work...

I have decided on using dual Shocks per arm. Utilising only one spring on one shock and the second shock for added damping for handling bumps at speed.
Also one bare alloy shock looks soooo good!


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