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lydiasdad 05.09.2008 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 171059)
Daf knows what he is doing, trust me..

I'm sure he does, but Mozzy is right you just have to adjust the way you drive the vehicle.

Serum 05.09.2008 05:21 PM

he shares an observation, it's not a problem?

never mind.

pullinteef 05.09.2008 05:57 PM

I haven't noticed that with my Neu. And I've been using a 1515 2.5D in a buggy. (Until I can sell it and get a 1512/2D) Yes, it's very hard to turn the shaft by hand, but does not seem to act like a drag brake, at least to me (With Quark 125b). Double check that the drag brake is off.

aqwut 05.09.2008 06:11 PM

I noticed with my big 2280, I had to do the same thing, although it was free spinning... it Still had to give it a little throttle to keep it levelled just because of the size of the motor... I only had this problem with my E-maxx and Mayhem buggy... ALl the other nitro to electric conversions were okay...

jhautz 05.09.2008 08:59 PM

I think if you are used to driving a Neu powered vehicle you dont even notice it. The only reason I noted any difference is I switched from the Hacker to the new and tried it 10 minutes later in the exact same setup. I only rn one pack with the Neu before going home. I was just trying to see how the powere of the Hacker 10XL and the Neu 1512/2.5d felt back to back and geared for the same speed.

Its a very easy compensation to make and if you are used to driving it that way and Lehner of Hacker may seem light in the nose to you.

Mozzy 05.09.2008 11:22 PM

I wasn't saying he didn't know what he was doing.I guess from my perspective & having worked in a LHS, it's given me the added benefit of driving nearly every type of car on the mainstream market which forced me to be very open minded on how every car was different.

I'm probably one of the few guys at my local track that can ask anyone for a burn of their car on the track & they quite happily hand me the tx & say go hard.

Naturally I do, :lol:, & pull some pretty impressive laps (compared to them) with a car that's set up totally different to all mine. Although, the majority of the time I'm usually asked to drive a car to "see what I thought" of their set up & offer advice to correct any problems.

Please bare in mind, I know I'm not the best driver around & I will never say I am or that I know everything, I'm just very adaptive to situations & also make observations purely from curiosity of a persons individual set up.

Off on a tangent, my mate asked me to try his MBX5T with a MR Ninja 21 to help him iron out some handling issues before the racing started. I took it out completed two laps to get a feel & then I started going hard with it & another friend that always beats me in truggy class realised I was driving it & tried to catch me.
He came up to me later on & said "I was trying my hardest to catch you & I couldn't." I felt like it wasn't fast at all, but, a few people saw me drive & said it was very fast.

Do you guy's get that feeling too? I mean, you think you're slow, but, you're pulling blistering times. Well, that was the night I collapsed at the track from blood clots in my lungs & haven't driven a nitro car since. Another reason why I'm going brushless, no smoking!!

Electric Dave 05.10.2008 08:23 AM

Can't add much here because my Neu is still not here (seems the whole RC industry is on backorder!) anyway I wonder for you guys having this issue if the vehicle seems to feel like it's breaking when going to a corner in neutral as well?

Mozzy 05.10.2008 10:47 AM

I would have to say that if it's braking in the air, it's braking on the ground too.

lutach 05.10.2008 10:57 AM

It doesn't doing on the ground as much due to the weight of the vihecle. It the air the wheels/tires are basically spinning free.

Mozzy 05.10.2008 11:03 AM

Oh ok, wasn't sure.

Serum 05.10.2008 11:44 AM

to slow down tires in the air takes way less energy than braking an entire car. (inertia)

Mozzy 05.10.2008 11:47 AM

I realise that.

That's why you get rid of the motor braking & use the mechanical brakes.

Also, not using the motor as a brake prevents the motor from overheating.

Serum 05.10.2008 12:00 PM

mechanical brakes on a brushless vehicle? and back at home you are still firing the stove with rocks?

Mozzy 05.10.2008 12:13 PM

Don't give up your day job, cause, you're a crap comedian.

If you took the time to look at commercially available conversions, the majority offer the mechanical braking as an option.

The Tekno Revo conversion uses the existing brakes as do alot of their buggy & truggy conversions.
This is directly from their site..........
Uses stock mechanical brakes so you can tune front/rear brake bias if using the center differential kit. This results in much more predictable braking and less heat generation compared to using 'motor braking', not to mention it will save your transmission from unneeded stress.

The only good thing those rocks are for is to throw at your head.

Look before opening mouth.

Serum 05.10.2008 01:06 PM

I apologize for my post, i didn't realized that it would lead into a response like this from your side..

I have tried both, and motorbrakes outperform mechanical brakes. You could simple ask me about my opinion.

My reply was somewhat unbiased, but instead of asking, you simple felt offended and start to throw mud. Not a good start from your side.

Unlike you, I don't care for tekno's selling arguments, and i am able to decide myself what i like and what i don't like.

About your post; i find it unacceptable that you reply the rude way you do; i thought you normally help out people? the post made here don't show a helpful person.

Calling me a smartarse, and want to throw rocks at my head. Thanks for that.


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