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bustitup 10.22.2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 225031)
Wow, this is an interesting post. I had to check and make sure that I was on Rcm and not the traxxas forum......

I had to re read this....now thats just lower than anyone can go

lutach 10.22.2008 05:39 PM

Anyone that has owned a VLX ESC, did you guys experience that throttle lag?

TexasSP 10.22.2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 225035)
EDIT: Hiamplidude, correct (thats just sounds odd, but still cool, lol).

I just had to straighten that out, he was my hero! :party::lol:

E-Revonut 10.22.2008 05:55 PM

Glad I caught this after it was cleared up that "bustitup wasn't completely serious! I have never been a fan of the v-twin setup, it's a waste IMO. I thought the point of converting to BL was that one single motor could easily out do 2 brushed motors. The cost of 2 VXL systems is approaching the cost of my Tekno Neu/MMM setup, is more than a MMM/XL series motor, and more than a MMM combo will be and any of those will spank a v-twin IMHO. The VXL combo isn't bad for it's intended purpose but the MM esc is much better than the vxl esc for the same task.

All that said I wish you luck Linc, not at getting it together, or keeping it together, but at keeping it rubber side down! At 20MPH I still can't punch it cause mine will be upside down! You had better get the wheelie bar and a brick for the front end!

jayjay283 10.22.2008 06:22 PM

Neil and Shaun showed me how to setup the vtwin, It was sick fun for 6 months, great n00b setup, for ease. Im sure a seasoned brushless vet would still enjoy it. My neus with neu 30c lipos dont take off as fast as that vtwin. From reading the traxxas tards trying it, they didnt spend the amount of time I did getting everything setup well. I took the pinions off and reprogrammed those escs 50 times a month until they started together by turning the throttle trim a tad. Long process and lame but it ran sick fast. Cant say I miss it but cant say it wasnt retarded fun and really shouldnt be dismissed. It does cost about the same as a neu MMM but seems not to when you start out scared.

lincpimp 10.22.2008 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 225062)
All that said I wish you luck Linc, not at getting it together, or keeping it together, but at keeping it rubber side down! At 20MPH I still can't punch it cause mine will be upside down! You had better get the wheelie bar and a brick for the front end!

No prob, I have plenty of experience with high speed r/c. Suspension setup is very important for speed runs. So is tire choice. Some "throttle modulation" is important.

All that said, my 10th scale speed car was setup well enough that I could open it up fully from a stand still and it would track perfectly straight and leave 3-4ft foam tire burnout marks. I only had room to get it to 74mph before having to get on the brakes...

lucias 10.23.2008 04:59 PM

Do you have any pics of your build lincpimp? I have the electronics (1521 and mmm) just looking for a truck to put them in for bashing.. I have been looking for a muggy but just haven't pull the trigger.. Will a revo hold up with the hybrid diffs?

Takedown 10.23.2008 05:09 PM

Ive owned a few VXL esc's. Never had throttle lag.

lincpimp 10.23.2008 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lucias (Post 225376)
Do you have any pics of your build lincpimp? I have the electronics (1521 and mmm) just looking for a truck to put them in for bashing.. I have been looking for a muggy but just haven't pull the trigger.. Will a revo hold up with the hybrid diffs?

I originally bought the motor to go in my lst. I have the al diff cups and tin coated gears in that truck, so the drivetrain is about as strong as they come. I think the revo drivetrain will survive with the hybid diffs. I have had great success with the new emaxx drivetrain and the plett maxx on 4s. It is not as powerful but still gives everything a workout. I will not bash this revo very hard, just plan to do some speed runs with it. I will most likely swap the motor into the lst and put the hacker c50 11xl in the revo. Still going to run it on 6s though... I am sure the hacker will easily get the revo past 70mph, but the 1521 looks more impressive.

azjc 10.23.2008 07:38 PM

as long as you don"t try any any backflips from a stopped position I think you will be ok, WOT from a roll

magman 10.23.2008 08:27 PM

Wow linc...a vid of the speed run is a must!

BL_RV0 10.23.2008 09:26 PM

Man this will be nuts!

lincpimp 10.23.2008 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by azjc (Post 225421)
as long as you don"t try any any backflips from a stopped position I think you will be ok, WOT from a roll

Sounds like a good idea...

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Originally Posted by magman (Post 225436)
Wow linc...a vid of the speed run is a must!

I will definately do that!

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Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 225449)
Man this will be nuts!

I think it will be...

Well, I got some work sone on the old nitro revo that I will be using, stripped it almost all the way down in prep for some serious cleaning. I hate to say this, but I did not clean this truck when I got it used, just slapped the tekno kit in and beat the snot out of it...

So it is a bit nasty, at least two owners of crud and grime... All the plastic will get a good soak and scrub, and i will go thru all of the bearings. May take a few days so sit tight!

BlackedOutREVO 11.02.2008 02:28 AM

Hurry up and post finished pics!

haha

crazyjr 11.02.2008 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 225031)
A 1521 should be able to easily output 2000watts. I highly doubt that a s can feigao can put out 1000 watts, 600-700 would be more likely. Also your batteries are not likely to put out 1000 watts each.

Sorry pimp, but i got to show this to you, I did aneagletree on my SRT w/VXL on 3s and 2s and here is the wattage graph on it. as you can see it nearlt pulled 1150 watts in a truck less than half the size of the Emaxx/E-revo.
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x...and2swatts.jpg

BL_RV0 11.02.2008 10:53 AM

Whoa. :oh:

lincpimp 11.02.2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 228414)
Sorry pimp, but i got to show this to you, I did aneagletree on my SRT w/VXL on 3s and 2s and here is the wattage graph on it. as you can see it nearlt pulled 1150 watts in a truck less than half the size of the Emaxx/E-revo.
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x...and2swatts.jpg


Do you have any average numbers for the run?

I was only trying to say that a 1521 will be able to handle higher gearing for longer than the vtwin setup will. I know the vxl motor is decent, but is designed for a 10th scale 2wd truck. Plus it will get hot with alot of load, no way to get around its efficientcy. The Neu motor design is superior to a feigao. I am sure that a 1506 of similar spec will outperform the vxl motor.

BL_RV0 11.02.2008 05:57 PM

True.

lutach 11.02.2008 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 228504)
Do you have any average numbers for the run?

I was only trying to say that a 1521 will be able to handle higher gearing for longer than the vtwin setup will. I know the vxl motor is decent, but is designed for a 10th scale 2wd truck. Plus it will get hot with alot of load, no way to get around its efficientcy. The Neu motor design is superior to a feigao. I am sure that a 1506 of similar spec will outperform the vxl motor.

Hey linc,

I got my monye on you buddy. I was able to extract 4760 watts out of my 1521/1Y when I used 10S with it. I would love to see 2 VXL do that.

Unsullied_Spy 11.02.2008 08:01 PM

That Revo is going to need some work to reliably handle that power. I'd convert to 8mm centers and wheel shafts with the Truggy diffs and the Tekno RC 8mm shaft/17mm hex conversion. The LST2/Muggy will handle the power better, but this is sure a good way to shut down the V-Twin users. My 1515 beat my Revo into the ground (which is why I sold it and bought a Muggy, far superior drivetrain).

BL_RV0 11.03.2008 12:04 AM

I think a truggy would be more suited to this motor= more durable.

lincpimp 11.03.2008 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 228556)
Hey linc,

I got my monye on you buddy. I was able to extract 4760 watts out of my 1521/1Y when I used 10S with it. I would love to see 2 VXL do that.

HAHA. I am sure that someone on the traxxas forum has graphs of a single vxl getting close to that, most likely using maxamps lipos too.:lol:

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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 228583)
That Revo is going to need some work to reliably handle that power. I'd convert to 8mm centers and wheel shafts with the Truggy diffs and the Tekno RC 8mm shaft/17mm hex conversion. The LST2/Muggy will handle the power better, but this is sure a good way to shut down the V-Twin users. My 1515 beat my Revo into the ground (which is why I sold it and bought a Muggy, far superior drivetrain).

I have a muggy roller sitting around. And my aftershock may get to try this motor out too. Problem is that now I am on a crawler kick now. I will be back to MT soon. My r/c interest seem to go in cycles...

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Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 228686)
I think a truggy would be more suited to this motor= more durable.

Ok, how about the hyper st?

crazyjr 11.04.2008 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 228504)
Do you have any average numbers for the run?

I was only trying to say that a 1521 will be able to handle higher gearing for longer than the vtwin setup will. I know the vxl motor is decent, but is designed for a 10th scale 2wd truck. Plus it will get hot with alot of load, no way to get around its efficientcy. The Neu motor design is superior to a feigao. I am sure that a 1506 of similar spec will outperform the vxl motor.

All i ever really did was run for a minute or two, I never could secure the eagletree to do longer. Also, all runs were done on blacktop, with the first gen eagletree micro data logger.

I never said that the VXL was the best, The comment that the VXL could never see 1000 watts made me comment, I know it was peak, but it did

BTW, I'd never bet against a single Neu, of any Kind, When a V-twin was involved

BL_RV0 11.04.2008 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 228698)
Ok, how about the hyper st?

Don't see why not. Good too because it's one heavy mofo of a truggy.

mkrusedc 12.10.2008 03:27 AM

James did you ever finish?

lincpimp 12.14.2008 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 240624)
James did you ever finish?

Still working on it... My variety of maxx trucks and the lst are keeping me busy...

BL_RV0 12.14.2008 05:19 PM

Argh...


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