I guess I'm in trouble then. :mdr:

I had to do a couple of modifications. Nothing too serious but the case has been opened. :whistle:

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i have to a gree with patrick on the case issue. i opened my v3 as well to heat shrink the fan wires (both showing strands through the insulation) and to trim the offending tab off the lower portion of the case, but if you are not carefull you CAN damage the board. personally i use the same method as lincpimp, two small allen drivers. i think the issue is when people damage the board, they dont want to say so. yeah it sucks but oh well could be worse. i have had 5 mmm's so far(4 v2 + 1 v3) and trust me i felt the frustration. in the end castle is doing more than they should have to as far as working with the end customer. we have all had our rants, i am NO EXCEPTION, but in reallity opening cases and performing mods etc. is the best thing we can do. we are pounding these controllers in our trucks and castle is actually listening!!!! not to say negitive feedback is useless, but its harder to WANT to hear than positive. anyway my .02

Patrick - I have do disagree on the fan wire - I've shown on mine that when I opened it up the fan wire was stripped on +ve to copper.

I can't say it would have shorted against the board in an important way but it can't be good...

my friend had her phone on vibrate. when i called her it vibrated from the sink right into the toilet.

....a bit lost right now...

That is why I insist that the toilet seat is always closed unless someone is using it. I am slightly OCD with that, but my phone has never gone swimming with a floater/peanut...

i agree could be nothing like patrick said but what circuit is affected when the fan dead shorts? it will do something somewhere in the esc. whatever, easiest fix ever, 1.5" shrink tube, and a little patience. small task considering the time and effort spent on the rest of the vehicle. this pinch is obviously happening at the factory as the esc is assembled. the only way they would know is to open it back up after bench testing and have a look see. but then again it works why open it? like i said before when i got my v3 out of the box i peeled the sticker off so i could mount it and opened it (past mmm's had pinched fan wires too) to check the fan wires, both were showing copper.

ok???

i dropped a razor phone off the top of a 75 ft pole onto the street below

Earlier in the thread Patrick was stating in response to my post that he got good cutomer service for his phone.

ahhh that helps..:whistle:

for a durable phone, get a tracFone, made like bricks

Ok, so if the MMM isnt broke dont fix it.

Dont use your MMM as a lawnmower.

I love this site. I learn so much.

Lets face it guys, its a good policy. If you know what you are doing they will never know you opened the case. Some of the people opening these cases are the same ones that think the 8S is close enough to 6S and that 5000kv motors and 6S work perfectly together.

who makes/carries the tracfone? i go through like 5-10 phones a year and would like to stop.

TrackFone is it's own service- but its prepaid yuck..

there brands include motorola and nokia, not to mention there fones look like bricks too:lol:

Exactly, did patrick really need to elaborate on the frailty of the board vs. a screwdriver or other wmd inserted into said monster.:neutral:

there is nothing like cutting grass with an r/c:rofl:

crap, oh well looks like it will be verizon for another oh i don't know............10 lifetimes:rules:

My wife flushed the car keys down the toilet - $230 to replace!

Can't complain as it meant I could buy an AX10... lol

I can fully understand Castle not wanting people to open the case on any of their ESC's but then again if people were not having problems I doubt most would want to open the case in the first place.

Benz, Jag or maybe a Lexus at that price.:surprised:

Close Audi...

for all those who swim with their phones....
....or drop them off at the pool with the kids....

http://www.golden-shellback.com/

That stuff is amazing....

here is my problem i opened up my v2.5 to put the new case on it and the fan was already cracked. what do i do about this? and on my other v2 i finally opened it after 1 race day and the fan wires are completely stripped. the fan wires are a issue just like castle's QC with the bullits touching the heatsinks. 30 seconds to make sure they dont touch.

Or as I call it, an Owwie (like when a kid gets hurt, not too sure how to spell it). $230 is nothing compared to continually bringing it back to the dealership :grrrrrr:

I can definitely agree with the non-open policy, but it would be nice if they make a cutout on the PCB with smooth edges for the wire to be routed through. Will CC warranty a MMM that has been carefully opened (to the point they can't notice that it's been opened until they see the mod) that has heatshrink on the wire?

By the sound of Patrick's post if you did not damage the esc by opening it you will be fine. If it looks like you used a shop press to get the case off the warranty is void. They are just stating that it is up to them to decide. CC are a good company and will honor the warranty if it is applicable to the problem.

Ahh, OK. They are definitely great when it comes to repairs, I sent in my 1st Mamba Max because it started pouring smoke out (this happened shortly after it went for a drink in a drainage ditch :whistle:) and they replaced it for free!

Yes, but did you tell them that it went into a drainage ditch?
I wouldn't be surprised if the MM warranty gets void if used in 1/8 scale as most other 1/10 ESC's on the market do

OK, you leave the case closed....the fan or a fan blade breaks. Send in my MMM for a fan replacement? They will be busy at CC. If they didn't want us to open the case, they shouldn't have put the fan connector inside the case.

I don't really think that is for you to worry about.. they can build however they want. When/if it fails.. You send it in and get it fixed. It's pretty basic, and they have gone above and beyond in taking care of the issues.

If you look at MOST electronics, if not all, there are Warranty stickers on the seals of them.. stating "Warranty Void" if broken. They don;t want consumers toying in the stuff.
Do you crack open your Home Theater receiver to look for defects and fix/mod it? Probably not.

Just leave it alone... If it fries the fan due to the fan wires, then it's on them to fix. Everything else.. if it fries something due to the failure.. Talk to Castle and work with them.

Getting pissed because they are starting to push a normal policy.. is a bit silly.

well... i was once on a call and had to pee really bad so i went in started my thing and blooop in the phone went will my piss and i immediately reached in for the phone pissed on my hand. The phone was fine, i shut it off. took the battery out and washed it with water and let it dry for 2 days and it was fine. BTW i washed my hands really good after that. needless to say i don't talk and piss at the same time now.

We should all be thankful Caslte has a one year warranty on these items and they support them as they do. If you ask me thats a huge premium over the competition. Most manufactures only offer 3 months on these types of elecontric devices. That in itself is worth paying more for the item. But we dont pay more, we get this stuff at a huge premium over the competition. Some of you guys might get 200 uses out of your MMM before the year is up and then complain that it broke. We need to give these guys a lot of slack for what they are doing and be thankful.
They must have huge costs looking at these items everyone is trying to "fix". Run it, beat it, use it, but dont fix it. 99% of the people have no business trying to add caps, solder stuff on boards, or do anything else. Most of the hard core RCM members yes, but all the newbies that see this stuff pulling out their pry bars need to think twice. If it breaks just send it in and they will take care of it. They made it so simple for us and you have a whole year to do it.

If there was not something wrong with the case design, we would not be having this thread. Move the fan to the outside, or better yet remove the fan completely from the design!

Yes remove the fan to completely get rid of active cooling. and there is a reason that they re designed the case... maybe to fix the problem.. Its common sense not to cram a screwdriver into the control board, if you have one and are complaining you should have a different esc.:whistle:

the way i keep fresh cut grass out of my rc is to fly my helicopter upside down 1 inch off the grass and blow all the cut grass away.




2 hours later im ready to drive.


( took 2 hours to put helicopter back togeather)

:rofl::rofl::lol::lol:


pretty sure they have something like that, leaf blower?:na:

At least half of this issue here is related to a few noticing a possible issue with their and everyone pulling theirs apart.
I'd be willing to be that the wire routing is shifting from just trying to pull the stuff part.

Wrong, the fan wires are undisturbed when you remove the bottom of the case. The edges of the CCA are very rough fiberglass which makes a great saw. When they break the boards off of the panel they should be at least clean up the edge. For those of you who do not know, boards like this come in large panels that are scored between each individual board & the broken apart at the score lines. This process leaves very rough edges on the boards. The rough edges are not a big issue unless you let them rub against something like fane wires.

Wanna make a bet with me on that... I am 4 for 4 on crimped fan wires, and I sure as hell did not do it opening the case.

People may have issues getting a MMM case open, these are the same people who repeatedly drive their truck into a tree and then complain about its poor build quality and materials. These people also take drool breaks at work and pick their nose constantly.

The fan wire is an issue, not a possible issue. Have you taken a MMM apart yet, or do you even have one? The fan wire is routed between the 2 caps closest to the neg bullet. The slot in the case lip is not directly lined up with that routing so the wire naturally falls in a location that can be crimped.

i was walking through homedepot the other day and had an idea that maybe a some dry wall patch screen would work....maybe place the screen on top of the MMM case that way you won't have to open it if you don't want to....and i do believe that the patch screening is sticky on the other side.....but i haven't tried it yet..

might just be the ticket.


I have had 3 MMM, the fist one died silent BEC death, when i pulled it apart- the fan wire was worndown to the copper
2nd was from a member here who had put some sort of insulation around the wire- looked like textured clear tape, and it worked like a charm, no problems whatso ever..:yes: