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pedeboi364 01.02.2009 06:23 PM

NO THNX!!!!! lol, i wana be the 1st to test 1!!!!

Takedown 01.23.2009 07:04 PM

Ok guys some stuff arrived such as the rotors. Here are a few pics...

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...wnRCU/2-19.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...wnRCU/1-19.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...wnRCU/3-19.jpg

Metallover 01.23.2009 07:20 PM

Awesome! Are you going to wrap the rotor?

Takedown 01.23.2009 07:25 PM

Yep. Kevlar wrapped rotors.

emaxxnitro 01.23.2009 07:45 PM

wow! thats idetical to my hobbycity 9xl rotor. im sure its better though

Takedown 01.23.2009 07:53 PM

Lol, wouldnt know because Ive never owned one. Ill get some more pics up later on.

bensf 01.23.2009 08:00 PM

A little off topic here, but where did you buy the rotor from?

Takedown 01.23.2009 08:01 PM

Cannot say. Company secret.

What's_nitro? 01.23.2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 255003)
Cannot say. Company secret.

He would have to kill you, of course. :whistle:

Takedown 01.23.2009 08:44 PM

Read my mind exactly.:lol:

bensf 01.23.2009 08:46 PM

Well its not like i would tell anyone. ;)

What's_nitro? 01.23.2009 08:47 PM

:whistle:

Takedown 01.23.2009 08:47 PM

If you really must know. Open one up for yourself and try and find a rotor that matches it exactly.:wink:

suicideneil 01.23.2009 09:45 PM

With the endplates and brass spacers on the shaft, it looks exactly the same as my bidproduct motor's rotor ( I might post comparsion pics in another thread as I managed to extract the windings & stator from that motor in one piece- interesting to look at...).

Takedown 01.24.2009 12:16 PM

Nice nice... You might be coming onto something neil. Got any idea on how to remove windings from a can? Im pretty sure their epoxied onto the can wall but not 100% positive. What would be the best way to remove them?

suicideneil 01.24.2009 06:05 PM

I used a big hammer :smile:

Takedown 01.24.2009 07:10 PM

Hmmm, I really dont give a rats ass what happends to these windings because they will be replaced with lower resistance windings later on.

suicideneil 01.24.2009 09:14 PM

In that case, heating it up should be fine, just remove the bearings and any labels from the can before you break out the blowtorch. Once the epoxy is soft, you should be able to just push out the windings without too much effort- have fire extinguisher handy though... :whistle:

BL_RV0 01.24.2009 09:25 PM

I have some "secret" info about these motors but I am not allowed to leak. Sorry.

brushlessboy16 01.24.2009 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 255280)
I have some "secret" info about these motors but I am not allowed to leak. Sorry.

woopty doo?



Where are the pics at?

lutach 01.24.2009 10:23 PM

I have the same type of rotor, but it came with 1/8" shaft. Here is the deal, the magnet is too strong and it causes a higher Io current which have shown it will cause motors to over heat. With that in mind, that rotor assembly will work best with a lower Kv motor of around 1000-1300 to keep the Io low. Hacker and Lehner uses a lower strength magnet (Different material as well), but it works out great. Not always using a stronger mgnet will make it better.

Pedebeater 01.25.2009 09:40 PM

Is their any possible way to demag the rotor to a certain point?

What's_nitro? 01.25.2009 09:41 PM

Not without complex machinery. :/ The stronger rotor would be best with a slotted stator, I would think, because there would be better magnetic coupling between the windings and the rotor poles.

Pedebeater 01.25.2009 09:43 PM

Or heat to a certain extent?

What's_nitro? 01.25.2009 09:44 PM

Yeah, but how would you take an accurate measurement of the remaining gauss? And you would have to cool it down almost instantly to seal in the rest of the magnet's strength so it didn't lose too much.

lutach 01.26.2009 12:05 AM

Maybe trying different Airgaps to find the most effective one to make such a strong magnet work to its fullest. All the 2 pole motors I tried with similar cogging has failed.

Takedown 01.26.2009 12:35 AM

Is their any way we can step down the strength of the rotor in a way that wont harm it but will make it run more efficient. And a way that will not be expensive and something maybe dummy proof.

lutach 01.26.2009 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 255630)
Is their any way we can step down the strength of the rotor in a way that wont harm it but will make it run more efficient. And a way that will not be expensive and something maybe dummy proof.

Best bet is to try a low Kv motor or try different Airgaps.

Takedown 01.26.2009 12:55 AM

I already have two motors on my hands I cant send back.

lutach 01.26.2009 01:09 AM

Bulding a motor is not as easy as you think it is. Slotted will some what be easier then the slotless designs, mainly because you can just wind copper in a stator. Keep in mind that a really good motor requires a lot of engineering. Things like, how are you going to balance the rotor after you have it wrapped with Kevlar? How are you going to measure the Kv, Io, resistance and other numbers that people like to know about?

I've been trying to find a company to do my motors the way I want them done, but still haven't found the right place yet.


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