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bdebde 12.30.2010 10:22 PM

5mm shaft would be nice on the 1410 and 1415.

Pdelcast 12.31.2010 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 392174)
How about a 5MM shaft motor maintenance package with replacement rotor? (for 1406, 1410, 1415)

ooooh... good idea. Option rotor. :yes:

snellemin 12.31.2010 02:04 AM

ah finally an answer.

jhautz 12.31.2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 392178)
ooooh... good idea. Option rotor. :yes:

Yea. That would be a decent solution. Can I get on a preorder list for the new 5mm shaft option rotor? When will they be ready?

LOL No Pressure....:mdr:

ta_man 12.31.2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 392200)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 392178)
ooooh... good idea. Option rotor. :yes:

Yea. That would be a decent solution. Can I get on a preorder list for the new 5mm shaft option rotor? When will they be ready?

LOL No Pressure....:mdr:

Me too! (for a 1410)

sikeston34m 12.31.2010 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 392178)
ooooh... good idea. Option rotor. :yes:

If the 5mm shaft was an option, even as an upgrade kit, I would buy.

IMO, the 1/8 shaft is too weak.

I understand the 1/8 shaft motor being a direct replacement and that's all good. But the 5mm pinions are readily available now.

The first thing I do when working on a setup is toss out the 1/8 shaft motor and gears, then in goes a bigger motor and better gears.

Sometimes the spur gear gets tossed out also, only to be replaced with Mod 1 gears.

We have to think "tougher" especially with the power levels we're putting down.

Weak stuff just don't hold up to extended use.

phatmonk 12.31.2010 05:00 PM

Ditto Option Rotor.And all my pinions are 5mm bore.Luckily I have the TRX extra pinions.I wouldnt mind trying the 1415 in my SC8E though.

scarletboa 01.02.2011 03:48 AM

another ditto on the 5mm shaft. i have a 1410 going in my crt .5 and the last thing i want to do is break the motor shaft. my pinions are all also 5mm bore, but a simple bore reducer fixes that. it's the breakage i'm worried about.

kingdomracer 01.03.2011 12:59 AM

Yea, sign me up for 5mm option rotors for each.

lincpimp 01.03.2011 02:26 AM

So I have to ask, will the sc 2400kv motor (1415) and the MMP handle 6s? Loaded question, I know.

Lets say that I keep the entire setup under 6lbs and gear for 50mph max... And use decent batts, of course.

2400kv at 22.2v... 53k rpms... Might have to buy a 4wd traxxas product!

bruce750i 01.03.2011 12:35 PM

LincPimp:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...h_4f7a72e9.jpghttp://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...h_8d12613f.jpg

So far its the same software in the MMP SC as the MMP just a new sticker (updated to the latest firmware;). I plugged in 6s and it beeped 6 times, it looked liked it armed but I didn't have it installed into anything to run it. Why the new motor Kv and 4s limit on the MMP SC combo? TRX NOOBs? The max motor rpm on the can is 75,000. Here is a pic of the 1415(top) besides a 1515.

lincpimp 01.03.2011 01:03 PM

Thanks bruce, good info. I am guessing with the correct gearing the combo will be fine on 6s, or maybe just 5s, to keep the motor rpms somewhat sane.

Pdelcast 01.04.2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruce750i (Post 392456)
LincPimp:
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...h_4f7a72e9.jpghttp://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...h_8d12613f.jpg

So far its the same software in the MMP SC as the MMP just a new sticker (updated to the latest firmware;). I plugged in 6s and it beeped 6 times, it looked liked it armed but I didn't have it installed into anything to run it. Why the new motor Kv and 4s limit on the MMP SC combo? TRX NOOBs? The max motor rpm on the can is 75,000. Here is a pic of the 1415(top) besides a 1515.

The 4S limitation is mostly to keep noobs from overgearing and damaging the ESC. :)

crusey_aus 01.04.2011 03:24 PM

I currently run the MMM / 1512 (1800kv) combo in my Slash 4x4, geared (23/50) for 55 mph on 4s, very happy with how it performs

Just purchased the SCT MMP / 2400kv combo to try it out

Do you think I will be able to gear it for the same speed on 4s ?

I calculate it would require a drop in pinion to a 17

Will throw the eagletree on it and see how the two setups compare

Cheers

crusey_aus 01.14.2011 08:58 AM

Howdy Folks,

Just received the SCT 2400 combo, motor looks nice (small next to my current 1512)

Just wondering what ESC settings (for both the 1512 1800kv and the 1415 2400kv) you would reccomend specifically

Motor timing
Start power
Punch control

I have been running the 1512 with punch disabled, high start power and 0 timing and love it

Cheers

justchil 01.14.2011 09:40 AM

What truck is this in crusey_aus?

I always set my timing to "none". Start power to low and the punch control you just have to play with. A lot will depend on what battery you're running.

Let us know how you like it... I'm curious how the cogging is.

Whoever is saying the Stampede 4x4 is heavy doesn't have an e-maxx lol. I think the truck is pretty light! Thinking about the SCT 2400 combo too.

crusey_aus 01.14.2011 09:44 AM

Hi mate,

Its a Slash 4x4

Planning to do some data logging to compare the 1512 with the 1415 over the next few weeks, will post the info here

Cheers

coreyfro 01.14.2011 11:48 AM

+1 vote for 5mm

I'm running a Lehner Basic XXL with a 4mm shaft. I am using 5mm pinions and a 4mm to 5mm sleeve. Hell, I'm running a Lehner 1530-8Turn in my E-Revo 1/16th. I have 4mm pinions for all my rides ;-)

I bore all my 48p pinions myself. I put 3.15mm pinions in the chuck of my drill press, and I press them on to a 5/32" drill bit held in a vice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 392158)
Yeah -- the shaft through the motor is 5mm, and it's turned down to 3.15mm so standard pinions can be used.

If there is enough interest, we could do a 5mm shaft version.

Thanx!


aggie4231 01.17.2011 10:52 AM

Id buy a 1410 if I didnt have to buy the Esc. Also, be nice to have a higher kv 1415 motor only option. Both with 5mm shafts.

2dialed 01.24.2011 01:49 AM

i'd say the option rotor should be 1/8 and the standard shaft 5mm. the motors are best used in heavier vehicles than 10th scale 2wd buggies and stadium trucks.heck i'd like to give it a try in a 1/8th buggy

jhautz 01.24.2011 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2dialed (Post 395098)
i'd say the option rotor should be 1/8 and the standard shaft 5mm. the motors are best used in heavier vehicles than 10th scale 2wd buggies and stadium trucks.heck i'd like to give it a try in a 1/8th buggy

Been running the 3800kv 1410 in my Losi 810 conversion for over a month now and it's doing great. Running on 3s. Of course this buggy is significantly lighter than a standard 1/8 buggy. It's weighing in rtr at just under 6lbs. Don't think it would do to well in a normal 7+lb buggy. But if the performance I've been getting from the 1410 is an indicator I'm bettin the 1415 would probably fo the job in a lighter 1/8 buggy if it was geared reasonably.

outlaw 01.24.2011 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 392178)
ooooh... good idea. Option rotor. :yes:

Very Good Idea !!! 5mm on the 14xx Motors

We just did a Eagle Tree Logrun with the 1410 from the SCT Kit

close to 800 Watt on 2S running Indoor on my SC10 :surprised:

This Motor is a beast !

http://labenda.de/images/sc10/watt.jpg

http://labenda.de/images/sc10/strom.jpg

crusey_aus 01.25.2011 03:56 AM

I just threw the eagletree on my Slash 4x4 with the 2400kv

1237 watts on 3s (6000mah 25c Turnigy Nano), gps speed 50 mph

1980 watts on 4s (5000mah 40c Turnigy), gps speed 60 mph

Cheers

ta_man 02.03.2011 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 392158)
Yeah -- the shaft through the motor is 5mm, and it's turned down to 3.15mm so standard pinions can be used.

If there is enough interest, we could do a 5mm shaft version.

Thanx!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 392178)
ooooh... good idea. Option rotor. :yes:

Patrick,

Any news on option rotor availability for the 1410 and 1415 motors?

jhautz 02.03.2011 08:53 AM

Yea. I'd really like to get my hands on 5mm shaft rotors too. Any chance this will actually happen?

kingdomracer 02.03.2011 09:15 AM

Yea, I'm waiting on this too.

DrKnow65 02.03.2011 10:12 AM

+1 on the 5mm option rotor.

Of course this won't delay my purchase, I can run 3mm till the "option" kit comes out....

phatmonk 02.04.2011 12:32 PM

Ditto on the 5mm shaft.

silentbob343 02.06.2011 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrKnow65 (Post 396417)
+1 on the 5mm option rotor.

Of course this won't delay my purchase, I can run 3mm till the "option" kit comes out....

same here and a 3300 kv 1415

Semi Pro 02.06.2011 02:05 AM

add me to the list of people who would rather have 5mm rotors too

Thomas Porfert 02.06.2011 04:38 PM

We are currently looking into getting a 5mm rotor "upgrade" put together for the 1410 and 1415. We will most likely not have a 5mm version of those motors in the near future, but the upgrade rotor shouldn't take long to get. It was brought up in the last tech support/engineering meeting and everyone was in agreement to move forward.

The earliest I would expect to see anything hit the market would be 6-8 weeks (in a perfect world). I'm going to keep on top of this project and make sure it doesn't get stalled. It really is fairly simple for us to produce, we just skip the step where they machine down the output shaft to 3mm. We also need to get artwork and packaging put together, but that's fairly easy as well. I will post any pertinent updates as they become available. Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

outlaw 02.06.2011 05:14 PM

Thomas

Great News !!!

THX to the Castle Team

kingdomracer 02.06.2011 05:31 PM

:yipi:

phatmonk 02.06.2011 07:29 PM

That's Awesome!

kingdomracer 02.07.2011 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 389872)
Unfortunately, our rotor design is a little different the the Neu designs -- they are optimized for Wye windings, and don't make good Delta motors.

How about a 1415 .5Y? That would be about 4800Kv.

Thanx!

Patrick

Any updates on this motor, will it come to production?

snellemin 02.07.2011 07:10 PM

The 1515 .5y motor is 4400kv, so the 1415 might be about the same.

jhautz 02.08.2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 396876)
We are currently looking into getting a 5mm rotor "upgrade" put together for the 1410 and 1415. We will most likely not have a 5mm version of those motors in the near future, but the upgrade rotor shouldn't take long to get. It was brought up in the last tech support/engineering meeting and everyone was in agreement to move forward.

The earliest I would expect to see anything hit the market would be 6-8 weeks (in a perfect world). I'm going to keep on top of this project and make sure it doesn't get stalled. It really is fairly simple for us to produce, we just skip the step where they machine down the output shaft to 3mm. We also need to get artwork and packaging put together, but that's fairly easy as well. I will post any pertinent updates as they become available. Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

Nice!!:yipi: A great motor just got better!!

6-8 weeks for NOT cutting the shaft!!! :whip::whip::whip: Sounds like someone needs some "persuasion" to move that along!! :whip::whip::whip:






LOL Kidding! I do product development for a living and understand that even the most seemingly simple projects are "complicated."

enlighten 02.28.2011 04:15 AM

The 1410 1y with 5mm shaft is an awesome idea. I'll take two! It seems this motor has hit the sweet spot.

Also just wondering what a 1.5Y wind in the 1410 would be kV-wise?

Any chance a slightly lower kV 1410 will be produced?

Cheers.

coreyfro 02.28.2011 11:18 AM

A 1.5y would be about 2600kv, but castle has decided that making all 1y motors and augmenting the length of the rotor to affect torque and kv. If you want lower kv, get the mamba max pro with a 1Y 1415 (2400kv, more torque). Only draw back, not ROAR legal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by enlighten (Post 399462)
The 1410 1y with 5mm shaft is an awesome idea. I'll take two! It seems this motor has hit the sweet spot.

Also just wondering what a 1.5Y wind in the 1410 would be kV-wise?

Any chance a slightly lower kV 1410 will be produced?

Cheers.


enlighten 02.28.2011 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreyfro (Post 399474)
A 1.5y would be about 2600kv, but castle has decided that making all 1y motors and augmenting the length of the rotor to affect torque and kv. If you want lower kv, get the mamba max pro with a 1Y 1415 (2400kv, more torque). Only draw back, not ROAR legal.


Great to know that info on Castles direction. Thanks for the reply mate.

Cheers.


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