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crusey_aus 03.02.2011 08:25 PM

Howdy Castle dudes

When you get around to putting out the 5mm shafts for the 1415's would it also be possible to extend the length ?

They are a tad short for the Slash 4x4

Cheers

DrKnow65 03.03.2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crusey_aus (Post 399813)
Howdy Castle dudes

When you get around to putting out the 5mm shafts for the 1415's would it also be possible to extend the length ?

They are a tad short for the Slash 4x4

Cheers

FYI: long pinions are readily available :-)
Changing the length of the stock of motor shafts might not happen too quick.
I would think they have a volume of them cut to length waiting for build runs...

crusey_aus 03.03.2011 09:49 AM

Where does one purchase a "long" pinion mate ?

Cheers

DrKnow65 03.03.2011 09:51 AM

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ened-Steel-15T
Link to a TechnoRC long shank pinion :-)

EDIT: Forgot the "Cheers" :-)

crusey_aus 03.03.2011 10:25 AM

Thanks for the link mate

They are mod1 whereas I would require a mod8 for the stock Traxxas Spurs

Cheers

DrKnow65 03.03.2011 10:35 AM

Ah, well as of yet I have not seen any Mod.8 (32p) long shank pinions.
But it does seem that there is a demand for them.

Maybe e-mail Robinson Racing and ask them what it would cost to turn you out a few?
Link ---> http://www.robinsonracing.com/gearratio.html
They may just want to do a small run to see about the interest in the market...

Cheers

E-Revonut 03.03.2011 12:18 PM

I imagine you could easily use a nitro revo spur on the slash 4x4 as all newer traxxas slippers seem to be the same, then you could use mod 1 gears

jhautz 03.05.2011 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 396876)
We are currently looking into getting a 5mm rotor "upgrade" put together for the 1410 and 1415. We will most likely not have a 5mm version of those motors in the near future, but the upgrade rotor shouldn't take long to get. It was brought up in the last tech support/engineering meeting and everyone was in agreement to move forward.

The earliest I would expect to see anything hit the market would be 6-8 weeks (in a perfect world). I'm going to keep on top of this project and make sure it doesn't get stalled. It really is fairly simple for us to produce, we just skip the step where they machine down the output shaft to 3mm. We also need to get artwork and packaging put together, but that's fairly easy as well. I will post any pertinent updates as they become available. Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

So... How is the timing looking? Still on track for the 6-8 weeks?

brainanator 03.05.2011 02:32 AM

I've been eyeing the short course motor for awhile, I think when the 5mm shaft upgrade comes out I won't be able to resist....

sikeston34m 03.05.2011 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainanator (Post 400111)
I've been eyeing the short course motor for awhile, I think when the 5mm shaft upgrade comes out I won't be able to resist....

This is where I'm at too. :yes:

phatmonk 03.06.2011 11:00 AM

How many amps will the 1410 pull compared to a 1512/2d in a Mugen MBX6 Eco.
The 1410 will run 3s and the 1512/2d will run 4s both setups will run with a MMP.The buggy weights about 6lbs.

DrKnow65 03.07.2011 02:50 PM

As much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.

mihael 03.12.2011 06:56 AM

hi there

i am planing to buy the sct mmpro combo for my 1:8er electric buggy

i driving now 2 years the mmpro esc in my 1:8 electric cars with no issue

the new SCT motor, 1415 2400 has a 3,17mm shaft. i dont know if this tiny shaft will break in the 1:8.

i was planing to buy a NEU 1415 1y engine. but this new castle creations combo has all in one. the good esc and a NEU 1415, but hte version with 3,17mm shaft. there is no problem to buy a pinion Modul 1 for 3,17mm. but i dont know if the shaft will break in a 1:8 vehicel

ta_man 03.12.2011 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mihael (Post 400739)
hi there

i am planing to buy the sct mmpro combo for my 1:8er electric buggy

i driving now 2 years the mmpro esc in my 1:8 electric cars with no issue

the new SCT motor, 1415 2400 has a 3,17mm shaft. i dont know if this tiny shaft will break in the 1:8.

i was planing to buy a NEU 1415 1y engine. but this new castle creations combo has all in one. the good esc and a NEU 1415, but hte version with 3,17mm shaft. there is no problem to buy a pinion Modul 1 for 3,17mm. but i dont know if the shaft will break in a 1:8 vehicel

So long as you use mechanical brakes and don't get any stones in the pinion/spur interface, you might be OK. But I think you are lilely to snap the 1/8" shaft clean off if you use it with electric motor brakes on a 1/8th buggy.

The good news is that Castle is supposed to be working on 5MM shaft rotors for the SCT motors, so when you snap your 1/8" shaft, you will be able to buy a 5MM shaft.

fastbaja5b 03.12.2011 09:30 PM

I looked at that combo for my RC8Be but the 3.17mm shaft to me I thought would last a week or two! For the extra cost, it was simply a better option to get a MMM / 2200 Combo and be doubly sure. (Took the MMM and put it in my SC8e as that's heavier, running the MMP on the RC8Be and seems fine)

mihael 03.13.2011 03:57 AM

i dont like the mamba monster controller and this to heavy engines

lincpimp 03.13.2011 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 400781)
So long as you use mechanical brakes and don't get any stones in the pinion/spur interface, you might be OK. But I think you are lilely to snap the 1/8" shaft clean off if you use it with electric motor brakes on a 1/8th buggy.

The good news is that Castle is supposed to be working on 5MM shaft rotors for the SCT motors, so when you snap your 1/8" shaft, you will be able to buy a 5MM shaft.

I snapped a few hacker 1/8 shafts in 8th scale buggies back in the day. 5mm shaft is mandatory unless you have a slipper setup. Even then, it is just good sense.

outlaw 03.13.2011 04:21 PM

I ran the SCT Pro Kit today in my RC8 to SC10 4WD conversion
Man, this motor is insane !
20 min runtime with about 4800mA

Motor Temp was about 45 degrees no cooling
MMP was about the same.

Gearing was 50/15

But i will stay on my Tenshock based 3S Setup i don't need that much power.
The only thing i don't like on the 1415, is the massiv Rast of the roter.
It is not as much as on the 2650KV CC Motor, but about 80% as on the Tenshock.

I hope to get my "real" SC10 4x4 soon and test the SCT Pro on 3S there ...

jhautz 03.22.2011 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 396876)
We are currently looking into getting a 5mm rotor "upgrade" put together for the 1410 and 1415. We will most likely not have a 5mm version of those motors in the near future, but the upgrade rotor shouldn't take long to get. It was brought up in the last tech support/engineering meeting and everyone was in agreement to move forward.

The earliest I would expect to see anything hit the market would be 6-8 weeks (in a perfect world). I'm going to keep on top of this project and make sure it doesn't get stalled. It really is fairly simple for us to produce, we just skip the step where they machine down the output shaft to 3mm. We also need to get artwork and packaging put together, but that's fairly easy as well. I will post any pertinent updates as they become available. Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

So....:whistle: How are the 5mm rotors coming along?????

kingdomracer 03.24.2011 06:06 PM

Yea, can we get an update on those 5mm rotors :whistle:

kingdomracer 03.25.2011 09:42 PM

Finally ran my 1410 today and it didn't last with a Tekno Traktion clutch, shaft snapped in less than a minute in a Ten-SCTE.
Really need a 5mm shaft bad!

ta_man 03.27.2011 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingdomracer (Post 402460)
Finally ran my 1410 today and it didn't last with a Tekno Traktion clutch, shaft snapped in less than a minute in a Ten-SCTE.
Really need a 5mm shaft bad!

Not surprised it didn't even make it a whole minute.

Castle: Pretty Please: give us those option rotors.

outlaw 04.24.2011 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 389872)
Unfortunately, our rotor design is a little different the the Neu designs -- they are optimized for Wye windings, and don't make good Delta motors.

How about a 1415 .5Y? That would be about 4800Kv.

Thanx!

Patrick

I would take one 100%
After seeing the 1410 1Y throwing around my RC8 to SC10 4x4 Conversion, I would love to have one, but please with 5mm shaft

Bondonutz 04.24.2011 10:22 AM

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@ Mr. Pat or Thomas, Any updates on the 5mm shaft for these motors ?

Thomas Porfert 04.25.2011 01:30 PM

5mm rotor "rebuild kits" are currently on order, hopefully we'll have some in May; but no exact date yet. We'll have the rebuild kits with the 1/8" shaft at the same time.

As far as the 1415/.5Y goes, we did receive a limited number of prototypes and the initial testing looks good. We do need some real world testing though.

I have one prototype left and looking for a good home. It would need to be mounted in a Losi short course, or similarly heavy short course truck on a 2s Lipo on a large outdoor track, preferably an 8th scale track. It has a 5mm output shaft so it would work very well on the new Losi short course. I only have one though so it needs to be for this specific setup. Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

Bondonutz 04.25.2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 405244)
I have one prototype left and looking for a good home. It would need to be mounted in a Losi short course, or similarly heavy short course truck on a 2s Lipo on a large outdoor track, preferably an 8th scale track. It has a 5mm output shaft so it would work very well on the new Losi short course. I only have one though so it needs to be for this specific setup. Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

You have a PM sir !
I have a large track that I visit regularly as well.

outlaw 04.25.2011 02:14 PM

Thomas, if you want a "similarly heavy short course truck"
My RC8 to SC10 4x4 conversion would be perfect :angel:

It is about 7 lbs incl. a single 2S Lipo

Just had another testday
max temp was 75 degree C without fan and about 35 degrees C ambiente

I love this motor....

Thomas Porfert 04.25.2011 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 405246)
Thomas, if you want a "similarly heavy short course truck"
My RC8 to SC10 4x4 conversion would be perfect :angel:

It is about 7 lbs incl. a single 2S Lipo

Just had another testday
max temp was 75 degree C without fan and about 35 degrees C ambiente

I love this motor....

Well, we kind of wanted to test this on a short course truck since that what is designed and intended for. It would probably work in a 1/8th on a conservative setup, but that won't be the intended market. We want to hit the racers on bigger tracks that are required to run 2s and where the 1410/1Y will overheat and the 1415/1Y won't produce enough speed on 2s.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

outlaw 04.25.2011 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 405252)
Well, we kind of wanted to test this on a short course truck since that what is designed and intended for. It would probably work in a 1/8th on a conservative setup, but that won't be the intended market. We want to hit the racers on bigger tracks that are required to run 2s and where the 1410/1Y will overheat and the 1415/1Y won't produce enough speed on 2s.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

Well thats want I do...
my Car is 2S only and the org. Sc10 4x4 is not much heavier

I though to have two different tracks would be an good idea.

anyway
I wait for the release

kingdomracer 04.25.2011 03:18 PM

Thomas you have PM.

jhautz 04.25.2011 10:05 PM

Any pricing on the 1410 rebuild kits w/ the 5mm shafts? Really looking forward to getting my hands n one of these.

If this were 3 weeks from now I would volunteer to test your 1415 .5 motor in my SCTE. But the big outdoor track wont open for a few weeks. The 1410 is a killer little motor. The little motor can dish out more power than my poor Maxamps 150C (:lol::rofl::rofl::sarcastic:) 2s pack can deliver. The motor hasn't overheated on the fairly large indoor track I run at, but the Lipos sure do start to sag after a couple minutes of race time when trying to clear the big double/triple. You can just feel how much less punch they have a few minutes into the race vs what they were when they were fresh charged. But the little 1410 motor just keeps dishing out as much power as the battery can deliver.

outlaw 02.20.2012 09:02 AM

@ Castle Team,

any news on the 1415/.5Y ?
Would still love to buy one
Or this there maybe a 1412 in the 4000KV range ....

outlaw 04.05.2012 03:09 PM

question

I'm about to order a Neu 1415 .5Y

or does it make to wait for the Castle green flavor 1415 .5Y ?

I like to have the "green" one since they have flexible wires

Castle staff ?????

Thomas Porfert 04.05.2012 04:44 PM

It doesn't look like the 1415/.5Y Castle-Neu motor will happen. It worked well in limited beta testing, but you had to be very VERY careful with gearing. When we release stuff to the public it can't be so close to the edge that you only have 2 or 3 tooth choices on gearing.

That motor worked very well if you knew what you were doing and how to gear the vehicle; but unfortunately not everyone knows how gearing works and with stock gearing from most vehicles the motor would overheat.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

outlaw 04.05.2012 05:06 PM

thx thomas for the update

so the 1415 .5y is even more sensitive than the 1410 1Y

On my 6.6 lbs SC truck the 1410 1Y does a great job on a MMM V5 geared for 32 mph
temps are around 50-60 degrees after 15min with a 6000mAh pack

one tooth more and the temps go up to 80+ degrees

but sometimes i like to have more rpm per volt to get a better rollout
the 4800KV would give me 1.02:1
with the 1410 1Y i have 1.22:1

anyway was hoping to have one of those, but too sensitive is not good for noops

thx again

bdebde 04.05.2012 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 419959)
thx thomas for the update

so the 1415 .5y is even more sensitive than the 1410 1Y

On my 6.6 lbs SC truck the 1410 1Y does a great job on a MMM V5 geared for 32 mph
temps are around 50-60 degrees after 15min with a 6000mAh pack

one tooth more and the temps go up to 80+ degrees

but sometimes i like to have more rpm per volt to get a better rollout
the 4800KV would give me 1.02:1
with the 1410 1Y i have 1.22:1

anyway was hoping to have one of those, but too sensitive is not good for noops

thx again

You actually need a 1415 for a 4x4 SC?!?! Why not a 1409 1.5D (4500kv)? Basically the same size of motor as the 1410. Heck, I use 1509's in my 1/8th scale buggies (lower kv of course). I even have a 1409 1.5D that I could let go of, if you are interested.

outlaw 04.06.2012 02:35 AM

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Well the only reason for the 1415 .5Y was the Y winding
I would run the motor with torque control propperly set to 5 or below
I don't need the power but I like to have a Y wind motor...

I have a local dealer in germany that does sale Neu Motors, but the 1409 1.5D is not in stock since a long time. but the price used to be great 185$ incl. shipping

PN me about the 1409 maybe we can work something out ...
How long are the cables ?

nativepaul 04.06.2012 05:08 AM

Who sells Neu motors in Germany? Buying from Castle in the USofA is rather expensive, and buying direct is impossible these days.

outlaw 04.06.2012 05:46 AM

IN-Racing.de does have a good selection in stock
This the only shop for Neu in germany

outlaw 04.10.2012 08:07 AM

thanks to bruce letting his 1409 1.5d go
can't wait to have the motor here


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