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Nick 08.30.2005 11:57 AM

MIP CVD Gripping Screws Alternative
 
I have MIP CVDs that use 2 little grub screws to grip the diff' output.

I hate them so want to find cups that can take the stock screws that lock the diff' outputs because they go through the middle of them rather than grip (stock screws are 4mm).

Or actuall 5mm screws that go through them instead of gripping grub screws.

Or some DIY way (as a last resort if you don't know where I can find the other bits) that would work.

Thanks...

Serum 08.30.2005 12:13 PM

How large is the hole in the diff? i think i do have got an alternative..

the thread is M5 right?

Nick 08.30.2005 01:03 PM

The hole in the diff' output is about 3mm.

Also I have noticed my cups are like this (looking into cup):
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Rather than:
([])

So the outputs don't lock onto the cup (regardless of screws or not).

Sneeck 08.30.2005 01:05 PM

I don't think it is wise to use a m4 bolt through such a small axle. I've never had a problem with my ue cup's holding on the diff's. Make sure the flat spot of the axle is wide enough for the screw head to sit on and use a little blue locktite.

(DON'T use the red stuff, it's a pain in the butt to remove later and will most likely strip the screw then get the screw out)


Edit;

Take a dremel and flatten the shaft so the set screw's sit on the flat spot. This should hold them fermly in place.

Nick 08.30.2005 01:09 PM

Tried Loctite, it doesn't work. Red and blue they still don't grip the outputs and still, I don't like the idea of gripping things, I prefer locking it in place, like the stock ones did.

Sneeck 08.30.2005 01:13 PM

Since the shaft you screwwing set screw's against is flat, it's not a big surprise it won't hold no matter how much locktite you poor on it. The only thing that will hold is welding it on.

But since that's a bad idea, i'd recommand taking a dremel and make 2 flat spot's(actually 1 is enough). Believe me when I say it won't come loose if properly done. There's nothing wrong with gripping it together.

Actually I don't know any brand that make's cvd's that hold's the cup's on like the stock slider's. All use set screw's.

Serum 08.30.2005 01:32 PM

Here you go my friend! try these;

HPI 86095

Nick 08.30.2005 01:46 PM

Yey! I think they will work, thanks again Serum...

Need to find someone who does better delivery to the UK, would like them within a week and $35 is alot for delivering screws, lol. :)

Serum 08.30.2005 01:52 PM

A LHS can get them rather quick!

coolhandcountry 08.30.2005 06:06 PM

Rd logics take the stock screws. Mike sells on here. I have a set. You need the stock screws for them though. they screw through the diff shaft. Even if they come loose they don't come off. If that is what you want.

Nick 08.30.2005 06:09 PM

I'm ordering the Savage pins from a LHS if they don't fit I will take that as my last option.

Will be odd down-grading to Rdlogics from MIP but at least they will work!

coolhandcountry 08.30.2005 06:17 PM

Well they with stand a 7xl 18cells. My bro had a set of mip that he broke up. They not a bad cvd. They no UEs. They only reason I not running them now. I went to the 7.5 rears. Won't work with them.

coolhandcountry 08.30.2005 06:18 PM

What if you run like UE cups with the mip cvds. The ue seem to hold better.

Nick 08.31.2005 12:43 PM

Got them today and they don't fit.

I need "M5x2x18"...

Are you sure RDlogics use the pin technique before I blow my money on some more CVDs?

coolhandcountry 08.31.2005 03:19 PM

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I can send you a pic of them. They don't come with the pin. You have to buy that seperate. I have them. I would not lie to you. Unless they have changed there design.

Nick 08.31.2005 03:23 PM

So what screw size do they use? Would the stock pin/screws fit? (I think they are M3).

coolhandcountry 08.31.2005 03:49 PM

I used the ones out of my plastic stockers. I not sure on size. What ever stock is. I hope this helps you. I really like the ue over everything i have tried.

Nick 08.31.2005 04:19 PM

*Confused* What are you using? UE or RDLogics, which are holding stocker pins?

coolhandcountry 08.31.2005 05:22 PM

the rd logics take the stocker. I like ue a little more though.

Nick 09.02.2005 03:53 PM

I fixed this, I filed down the Savage screws, so they have a 2mm pin that goes through the diff' output and an M5 head.

Big questions: The Maximizer 7705 Diffs' for Maxx, are the holes in the diff' output same as stock (2mm) I would be eternally greatful if someone could find this out for me!

Serum 09.02.2005 03:56 PM

It uses stock gears?

coolhandcountry 09.02.2005 04:02 PM

The maximizers i have take the 3 mm screws. Which are a lot stronger. Not sure if all of them are like that.

Serum 09.02.2005 04:17 PM

He's talking about the output drives.. not the ringgear? correct me if i'm wrong..

Nick 09.02.2005 05:06 PM

I'm confused, I should really get a picture!

I'm talking about the differential outputs (the part that sticks out the diff' housing) and I want to know the size of the hole that goes through (where you place the CVD cups on).

Stock ones are 2mm (real small). I'm wanting to know what the size of Maximizer ones are?

If they are 3mm that would be awsome!

Serum 09.02.2005 05:26 PM

does maximizer has got those things?

coolhandcountry 09.02.2005 06:50 PM

The maximizer diff cups have a three mm screw that hold the spur or ring gear to the diff cup.

Nick 09.02.2005 07:00 PM

Right I'm confused!

This is what I am on about:
http://www.rc-monster.com/prodimages/integy/diffs.jpg

The small peg in the middle of the 3 parts is the Diff' output that you attach to the CVD cups correct? Is the size of that hole 3mm?

(Sorry if I'm not understanding you coolhandcountry).

coolhandcountry 09.02.2005 07:01 PM

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here is a pic

coolhandcountry 09.02.2005 07:04 PM

Don't worry I think I have confused my self. :lol Are you talking about the hole where the spider gear goes through or the pin that goes through the two spider gears. If you know what I mean.

Nick 09.03.2005 04:40 AM

Oh dear, I have no idea what everyone is talking about, lol.

I can't explain it now! The picture I posted with the middle part (black with a small gear thingy on one end, then a hole at the other end) what does that hole do? It is for the center driveshaft yeh? To attach to the CVD cups? How big is that hole!

I can't explain it any better without pictures, which I don't have!

Serum 09.03.2005 07:03 AM

I understand you Nick..

The guy want to know how large the diameter of the shaft on the pinion is.. ;)

Nick 09.03.2005 08:56 AM

No not the shaft, the hole in the shaft, lol...

coolhandcountry 09.03.2005 09:20 AM

OH I think me gets it now. don't know that nick. The shaft is 5mm i believe. I will have to go with about 2.5 mm. Could be wrong about it.

RC-Monster Mike 09.03.2005 09:35 AM

The maximizer diff cups use the stock spider gears, so the output shafts(which are part of the stock spider gear sets) will be the same as stock, beacause they ARE stock.
I also have t-bones cvds, as well as t-bonz drive cups(which use the stock screw to affix to the output shafts), which are available seperately.

coolhandcountry 09.03.2005 09:39 AM

I think he wanted to know the hole through the shaft.

RC-Monster Mike 09.03.2005 10:30 AM

yes, but he already knows the size of the stock shaft hole, and the maxi diffs use the stock parts, so he already knows!

coolhandcountry 09.03.2005 10:35 AM

You sound as confused as we were. the hole threw the shaft. Where the stock pin slides threw. I think. I still confused. But that is what i think. I need to stop that. i going to burn something out with all this thinking. 2 cells can't take but so much :)

Nick 09.03.2005 10:53 AM

Thank-you Mike! Someone who understands me, lol. :D

That was a tricky one. Questions answered.

coolhandcountry 09.03.2005 10:56 AM

I still so confused. I wish some one would help me now. I don't have a clue any more. Brain over load. :)

RC-Monster Mike 09.03.2005 10:59 AM

LOL


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