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lincpimp 05.23.2008 10:44 PM

Brushless, Lipo Cr-01 build
 
So I got a new Tamiya Land Cruiser Cr-01 for my birthday! I am a hopeless Tamiya fan, I have a dozen or so that I have built from kits!

Still building it at the moment, but will use a novak 13.5 with a SS+ esc. I have a bunch or 2s lipos to use with it too.

So far it looks like a very well engineered kit. It has a planetary trans and pede style sliding center driveshafts. It has solid axles and a cool canteliver shock setup with seperate coil springs. I will post some pics of the chassis when I get is assembled. Heres a link:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXUGU1&P=ML

gogglespaesano 05.24.2008 11:41 AM

post some pics and video when you finish!

i know how you feel about those tamiya kits! i love the look of that cr-01, wish the boss would let me get another rc, but that doesn't look good for the near future with a kid due in july.

guess i'll just have to live vicariously through you linc! can't wait to see it!

rhylsadar 05.24.2008 11:51 AM

so cool! i love the look of the cr01! and now even BL. :party:

rhylsadar

johnrobholmes 05.24.2008 01:25 PM

Good thing you aren't using the crawler ESC, you would probably break something with the neutral brake. I like the sensored motors for crawling though. Castle needs to make one now. Sensored outrunner anybody?

lincpimp 05.24.2008 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 176257)
Good thing you aren't using the crawler ESC, you would probably break something with the neutral brake. I like the sensored motors for crawling though. Castle needs to make one now. Sensored outrunner anybody?

I do like that idea JRH. That would make a great direct to diff setup with the sensor, especially if it could do something like a sensored startup to a certain rpm, then run sensorless with some of the great cc programming. Since castle reps neu now, maybe they could do something like that with the 19 series motors, those things are torque monsters!

johnrobholmes 05.24.2008 03:14 PM

I have hit up a few companies to make sensored outrunners, and a few can do it. The problem is that Novak can't/won't tell me how to set up the sensor so that it will commutate properly, and I can't get figures for the max commutation rate on the crawler ESC. Castle could make both ESC and motor now, so they are the next natural choice.

Reason for outrunner vs inrunner in my mind- same RPM per volt for a crawler but with a much larger torque arm and higher commutation cycle/revolution. Basically the amp draw could be higher with an outrunner running at the same speed as a comparable inrunner.

BL_RV0 05.25.2008 12:36 PM

Nice! I am a diehard Land Cruiser fan. My dad and I have a BJ60 ourselves.

MTBikerTim 05.25.2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 176257)
Good thing you aren't using the crawler ESC, you would probably break something with the neutral brake. I like the sensored motors for crawling though. Castle needs to make one now. Sensored outrunner anybody?

What is the go with the neutral brake. Why will it break things? Neutral brake sounds like a good idea to me on a crawler.

lincpimp 05.26.2008 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTBikerTim (Post 176575)
What is the go with the neutral brake. Why will it break things? Neutral brake sounds like a good idea to me on a crawler.

From what I have heard the neural brake is a bit too "strong" for some setups...

big greg 05.26.2008 12:34 AM

cool i like the look of that, post pics of the build!

lincpimp 05.26.2008 12:53 AM

I will have some completed body off pics tomorrow. Just need to put the servos in and double check everything. The novak motor and esc fit nicely. This truck has alot of space for gear, easily could fit a pair of escs and a pair of receivers!

lincpimp 05.26.2008 07:18 PM

Picture time!
 
Here we go! This thing is fast, I really need to drop down to a 16t pinion from the factory 20t. Good low speed driveability with the novak ss. Only missing the drag brake. So I may buy the crawler system, but will have to find a good deal on it used...

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2158.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2159.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2160.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2161.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2162.jpg

brushlessboy16 05.26.2008 07:53 PM

is that a zippy lipo?

johnrobholmes 05.26.2008 09:40 PM

I actually have a crawler system I am not using if you want.


The way the novak is set up, there is no drag brake. You hit throttle and it will coast if the slant is steep enough. It hits the brakes at neutral, so there is no proportional brakes. This doesn't work well on steep slopes, as it will coast until you let off- then it slams on the brakes. Some people like it, some people don't.

lincpimp 05.26.2008 09:51 PM

Nope it is a pair of maxamps 5000 cells that I had laying around. Figured if I killed them it was no big deal.

lincpimp 05.30.2008 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 176881)
I actually have a crawler system I am not using if you want.


The way the novak is set up, there is no drag brake. You hit throttle and it will coast if the slant is steep enough. It hits the brakes at neutral, so there is no proportional brakes. This doesn't work well on steep slopes, as it will coast until you let off- then it slams on the brakes. Some people like it, some people don't.

Interesting, was wondering if you think the crawler esc would work with a 13.5 motor? It looks just like the xbr with a different programming/profile.

BL_RV0 05.30.2008 10:19 AM

A Tamiya connector. I thought that was something I would never have to look at in one of your fine projects, but, whatever. :wink:

lincpimp 05.30.2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 177763)
A Tamiya connector. I thought that was something I would never have to look at in one of your fine projects, but, whatever. :wink:

Sorry, I had not got around to changing it over to deans yet. No fear, it has a deans plug on it now!

BL_RV0 05.30.2008 11:05 PM

:smile:

lincpimp 05.30.2008 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 177883)
:smile:

Glad that made you happy:yes:

BL_RV0 05.30.2008 11:31 PM

Not only that, it's now the light of my life! From now on, whenever I feel down, I'll just think, deep down, that Lincpimp has a deans connector on his brushless CR-01, and then any inner ailment will fade away.....
:lol:

BL_RV0 05.30.2008 11:32 PM

AHHHH!!!! I just HAD to post again because what I just said was my 666'th post!!!!! :diablo:

lincpimp 05.30.2008 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 177889)
Not only that, it's now the light of my life! From now on, whenever I feel down, I'll just think, deep down, that Lincpimp has a deans connector on his brushless CR-01, and then any inner ailment will fade away.....
:lol:

Wow....

I need to get you a pic of my deans connector collection. I have alot of new and a few used. Maybe a pic of my heat shrink collection would also help with your emotional issues?

BL_RV0 05.30.2008 11:44 PM

It will make me weep with joy! (But, you don't really have to... only do it if you want!)

lincpimp 05.30.2008 11:53 PM

Weeping is good, I guess. This coversation is really going in a direction that I find very uncomfortable. Maybe I am homophobic? Or maybe I find guys crying about electrical connectors a bit strange...

BL_RV0 05.30.2008 11:55 PM

1.) I am not a homo.
2.) It is strange crying about electrical connectors.

lincpimp 05.31.2008 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 177901)
1.) I am not a homo.
2.) It is strange crying about electrical connectors.

3.) are you single?

I would have laughed my ass off if you said that!!!!!

BL_RV0 05.31.2008 12:11 AM

:rofl:

Go ahead and try to tell me that wibblin' is not the most awesome made up word ever. If you say it isn't, you must come up with one that is funnier.
Was that off topic or what???

lincpimp 05.31.2008 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 177908)
:rofl:

Go ahead and try to tell me that wibblin' is not the most awesome made up word ever. If you say it isn't, you must come up with one that is funnier.
Was that off topic or what???

I trump your "wibblin'" with my "weasel". Just say it a dozen times in a row. It is almost as good as "oodless".

Off topic is great, especially if it is in one of my threads! That way I do not get in trouble!

WTF does wibblin' mean anyway?????

BL_RV0 05.31.2008 12:16 AM

Read the definition in the other thread (Neu and MMM MBX5 thread).

BL_RV0 05.31.2008 12:18 AM

When I said Oodles Weasels 10 times fast it sounded like I was saying "Poodle Wheels"

lincpimp 05.31.2008 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 177915)
When I said Oodles Weasels 10 times fast it sounded like I was saying "Poodle Wheels"

That is f*&^ing wibblin'!

Poodle wheels will never sell BTW. I can imagine that they will squeak quite a bit for the first few feet and then come apart quickly, especially if used on an 18 wheeler.

BL_RV0 05.31.2008 12:23 AM

Can you imagine poodle yelping sound about every microsecond? Husband says to wife, "Are these good-looking poodle wheels really worth the noise?"

lincpimp 05.31.2008 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 177923)
Can you imagine poodle yelping sound about every microsecond? Husband says to wife, "Are these good-looking poodle wheels really worth the noise?"

"Honey, we really need to bring the poodle wheels to get trimmed." "Dumb Bi$%h"

Check this crap out: http://classifieds.stangnet.com/data/8/Picture818.jpg

BL_RV0 05.31.2008 12:29 AM

Hey, Linc, that Link does not work!

lincpimp 05.31.2008 12:37 AM

Works for me, are you dumb?

Heres another: http://www.ronalusa.com/wheels/opt-images/bear/bear.jpg

Or how about this for the special lady (or guy) in your life: http://www.borev.net/banana.jpg

BL_RV0 05.31.2008 12:38 AM

That banana has been my desktop since you first posted it.

lincpimp 05.31.2008 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 177933)
That banana has been my desktop since you first posted it.

That banana is the funniest thing I have seen in a while. have you seen the vid that he stars in?

BL_RV0 05.31.2008 12:40 AM

No! I must see it!

lincpimp 05.31.2008 12:43 AM

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSb-nV8l2QY

Watch all of Don Hertzfeldt's vids, just you tube his name!

And here is something else you might not have seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA1NoOOoaNw


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