need mgm 16018 help
 

hi guys, i just received all the stuffs from mike:party: and they're very very nice:yipi:but i need some help from you guys:oops:it seems like that the mgm16018 that i got from mike is a newer version and all the wire came in pair:oh:well, i'm using 18 cell NiHM battery, and a tekno rc ed 1515 1y/f:oh:could any of you guys tell me which wire to which...for example, the mgm got 2 red, 2 black, and 6 yellow wires:surprised:i believed those 2 red and 2 black wires are for the battery, and those 6 yellow wires are for the motor, RIGHT??? and i think since i'm using 18 cell battery(2 packs of 9 cell, so i'm able to do 1 or 2 plug!), am i suppose just put 2 red together, 2 black together, and to a battery plug??? and about those 6 yellow wires to the tekno motor, MAN I'VE NO IDEA :tongue:so, i do really need help to figure that out and i hope that you guys will be able to help me, THANKS A MILLION IN ADVANCE!!! samsam from Hong Kong!

2 reds to battery +, 2 blacks to battery -, 2 each yellow wires (pairs on top of each other) to each motor plug. You are going to need 5.5 or 6.5 connectors to get all the wires in.

since the motor got BLUE, RED, and YELLOW WIRE, which to which???i mean in the THIRD PIC, let say the LEFT TOP/BOTTOM SET of wire to which COLOR WIRE OF THE TEKNO RC ED 1515 1Y/F MOTOR???thanks, bdebde.

It dosen't matter on the motor wires. What ever order you want will work. If it runs backwards then just switch any two wires(two pairs). Just keep the pairs together.

hi desmo, do you mean set#1 to blue motor wire???
set#2 to red motor wire???
set#3 to yellow motor wire???
and i got some of those hyperion 6mm gold bullet connectors, do you think is good enough??? thanks!
P.S. do you like my other RC's???

:oh:don't understand why the wire is double on the 16018, i think you don't recieve a 16018, and you're very lucky, because you've paid for the 16018 and i think you have recieve a bigger one, like a 22418:whistle:

Lucky guys:lol:

double wires are standard on mgm car controllers. when I was ordering my esc I asked for single wires as they are thick enough to handle the current

Yes that will work, 6mm bullets are good

I've order two 16018 last winter and they came with single wires. Maybe it's new feature from the newer batch who exit this spring.
If it's standard, it from last few week/month.

guys, i heard this from my friend who own a hobby shop ...well, he told me something like this...say after you got up to top speed and when you want to slow down, you can't just slow down or give break to slow down, he told me that i've to kind of tap the grip several time to slow down, and this really confuse me:neutral:how do you guys slow down when using the mgm 16018??? thanks,sam

Mine slows down like most normal speed controls. It will coast in netural or brake when you hit the brakes. It will go into reverse after it stops.

thanks for all the info, will see what's up after my first run if the xt8 still alive

run it yet?

sorry desmo, i don't think i'll be able to finish the xt8 in a few days cause i'm for these few weeks and the rest of my time i need to spend with my wife and baby, but i think i can get it done within a week or max two weeks, so by that time i'll post some pics and tell you guys how's my xt8 doing!

Mgm 160/18
 

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that your MGM controller came with double wires for running dual batteries and dual motors if you wish to use that configuration. If not then you can just cap the second set of wires leaving them dead ended. That is the only reason I would imagine having dual wires.:neutral:

if you watch the castle video i posted a link to in the appropriate forum jerry, you will see/hear the reason for dual wiring. its so such a thick wire doesnt have to be used... 2 thinner wires are more flexiable too. also, unless its a very special esc, then it cannot control 2 motors. only dc motors (brushed) can work as ac motors need the motors to be "read" and adjusted that way, rather than amps/voltage. hope this makes a bit of sense.

Good
 

It sounds good to me, although all of it is a little foreign to me as I am just getting started into the BL side of the house. I get the two small wires instead of one big one, but it just seems to me in 2008 that they can come up with a better way to overcome that problem. Trial and error I guess.

So you could not run two sensorless motors off of one controller? If the cheapo EVX could do it with the brushed 550's why not say a pair of Neu's on an MGM? Just curious what would make that not possible. I know one is a better setup, but lets say for shots and giggles that you had a 20lbs vehicle that needed two small motors to push the wieght around? I am just curious as to why one could not do that???? I am still trying wrap my brain around this whole thing. Thanks for the help.

ok, its the way brushed motors vary from brushless...


ok, i am probably wrong, no expertise, only ever owned like 5 BL motors. this is how i understand it, please correct me if im majuorly wrong!!!!!


ok. brushed escs send the motor varying amounts of current through DC. this is what makes it go fsater/slower... etc... like a gate of a dam or pipe, the esc changes how much water (current) can flow through.simple.


brushless escs turn the dc supply from the battery into AC current. not exactly sure how, they just do. (this is as much as i know)... the motor has 3 phases? and depending on how the esc changes to make different poles, is how you get forward and backward. this is why you can just switch the 2 wires over and make it spin the different direction. the force (i have no idea here) of the electromagnetic field determines the speed???

anyway, the esc has special things in it which monitor these fields and can tell other parts where the motor is up to. (to make it work smoothly at low speed, like sensored motors)...

anyway, i dont think it is possible for an esc to monitor and control 2 seperate motors, even though it is sensorless, it still has to watch its rotation. unlike a brushed motor which is either off or on, and you can hook up many and it will still be off and on, this is much more complex to get smooth running motors. it would be possible to hook up 2 bushless motors but they would most likely spin at different rates and completely comfuse the esc!!!

so unless you have 2 banks of fets and 2 lots of sensors to monitor it i dont see how its possible, and having 2 sets is effectively having 2 escs...


anyway, thats the best i can do!

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