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BL_RV0 07.08.2008 12:05 AM

Mugen MBX4-RR Conversion!
 
Hey guys, new project here. Just bought this:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=412096
Planned setup will be: Medusa 36-50-2200, MM, 5s on 12/46 gearing with the Mugen MBX5 mount and custom battery tray. Here's the exported values.
Differential Ratio: 3.3333333333333335
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 46
Pinion Tooth Count: 12
Total Voltage: 18.5
Motor KV: 2200
Tire Diameter (inches): 4.6
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0
Motor Current Draw: 0
Motor coil Ω: 0.007
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 3.83 : 1
Total Ratio: 12.77778 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 14.45 inches (367.06 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 40700 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 43.59 mph (70.02 km/h)
Estimated Adjusted Speed: 41 mph (66 km/h) - 6% loss
Effective KV Value: 2200
KT constant: 0.61 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Power: Amperage not specified...

Give me your opinions. Pics will be taken upon arrival.

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 12:23 AM

Do you guys know if the Mugen MBX5 mount is compatible with the MBX4?

Takedown 07.08.2008 12:43 AM

DAMN YOU! I just had dibs on that same buggy... Anyways good luck with the conversion. Looks to be yet another killer setup!

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 12:44 AM

Thanks?

Takedown 07.08.2008 12:45 AM

It was a compliment. Didnt mean to be harsh but that was one helluva deal!

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 12:46 AM

I know. Just trying to "spark come interest." I really hope the MBX5 mount works with the MBX4.

big greg 07.08.2008 01:13 AM

wow that was a good deal, and you got the noisey engine to sell off

Matthew_Armeni 07.08.2008 01:26 AM

Dude, 5s with the Medusa 2200kv 50mm will be insane! You'd be better off running 4s, it'll still be plenty fast and torquey. It's what I'm running in my 8ight buggy and it's a great setup. If you already have 4s batteries give them a try before you go 5s.

Takedown 07.08.2008 01:28 AM

5s with the 2000kv 36-60 is the perfect setup. 4s will be to low of voltage for my tastes...

brushlessboy16 07.08.2008 06:50 AM

Direct drive!

Takedown 07.08.2008 09:16 AM

Direct drive is kinda a thing of the past right now ben. Its not efficient but has power and most people want a balance between the two.

Arct1k 07.08.2008 09:33 AM

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13381

I assume it is the same car...

brushlessboy16 07.08.2008 09:50 AM

yep.

Takedown 07.08.2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 189339)

Yep, same one. :yes:

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big greg (Post 189297)
wow that was a good deal, and you got the noisey engine to sell off

Actually, the engine did not come with the truck.

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew_Armeni (Post 189299)
Dude, 5s with the Medusa 2200kv 50mm will be insane! You'd be better off running 4s, it'll still be plenty fast and torquey. It's what I'm running in my 8ight buggy and it's a great setup. If you already have 4s batteries give them a try before you go 5s.

That's the thing. I don't have any 4s. I'm still debating between the 36-50-2200 and the 36-60-2000. Originally I wanted to go with the 36-50-2200 because it's still only spinning at ~39k RPM. The 36-60-2000 is spinning at ~35k rpm, it woudn't provide much over nitro probably. Has anyone run buggy badlands? They look like a great all-around tire. Any input?

Takedown 07.08.2008 11:41 AM

Here is the auction- http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=412096

And here are some pics...

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...RCU/buggy1.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...RCU/buggy2.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...RCU/buggy3.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...RCU/buggy4.jpg

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 11:48 AM

Thanks TD!

Takedown 07.08.2008 11:49 AM

No problem! I cant wait to see the finished product.:yes:

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 11:50 AM

Neither can I. :party:

Matthew_Armeni 07.08.2008 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 189367)
That's the thing. I don't have any 4s. I'm still debating between the 36-50-2200 and the 36-60-2000. Originally I wanted to go with the 36-50-2200 because it's still only spinning at ~39k RPM. The 36-60-2000 is spinning at ~35k rpm, it woudn't provide much over nitro probably. Has anyone run buggy badlands? They look like a great all-around tire. Any input?

Only spinning at 39k? Dude, that's really fast. I usually shoot for 28k to 33k for my setups and I still beat the nitro's. The brushless motors have instant torque that the nitro's don't have, so that high end isn't always needed, especially when you only hit top speed once or twice on a track.
But if you already have 5s packs I'd go with the 2000-60, it'll prolly be a little more efficient than the 50 because it'll have an easier time pulling the buggy around, and it's only 1 ounce heavier than the 50.
Normally I'd recommend the 1600-60 for 5s (which would put you at 29,600 and give you great run times) but if you really wanna go that fast stay with the 2000.

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 04:23 PM

What kind of runtimes would I get with the 2000? The 1600?

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 04:24 PM

Just got the tracking number for the MBX4-RR! :party:

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 05:13 PM

Sent the other MM in for repair- but the current repair/delivery time is 4 weeks! :gasp:

brushlessboy16 07.08.2008 05:17 PM

that sucks...

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 05:19 PM

Yep. All next week I'm going to be in Canada. That's good and bad- its a week to kill, but I'm going to miss the delivery of my buggy. :cry:

Takedown 07.08.2008 11:01 PM

The MM was shipped today. I sent you the tracking number and it was insured for $100.

big greg 07.08.2008 11:08 PM

did you do it 'right" for him? lol

BL_RV0 07.08.2008 11:53 PM

Huh? :neutral:

chumanji 07.09.2008 12:09 PM

Do you guys know the RCM motor mount will work on that buggy? I asked this question in the buggy forum...after 30 reads, no one replied.

I have the same buggy laying around and want to do the conversion as well. Keep us update pls.

big greg 07.09.2008 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 189671)
Huh? :neutral:

was just kidding, because your other one went up in smoke:whip:

BL_RV0 07.09.2008 12:13 PM

I have the same question as well. I wonder about just sending the buggy into mike for him to do the mount treatment for it.

Serum 07.09.2008 12:23 PM

Nice buy!

http://picasaweb.google.com/buikpijn...XGoesBrushless

BL_RV0 07.09.2008 12:28 PM

Serum, I can never get over how clean/nice your builds are. Maybe you can shed some light on the question- Which of Mike's mounts works for the MBX4? Thanks.

Serum 07.09.2008 01:43 PM

No idea to be honest? maybe the Mugen holder for the MBX5 would fit, not sure though. What distance have the holes in the center diffholder? (i've got a Mugen mount here, so i can do some measurements if you need to know)

BL_RV0 07.09.2008 01:44 PM

Not sure. The buggy is coming in the mail and is scheduled to be here on the 14th.

BL_RV0 07.09.2008 04:46 PM

Got a couple goodies for the buggy. A set of buggy badlands premounted on some white rims, along with a HS-645MG.

brushlessboy16 07.09.2008 04:55 PM

can i have some badlands and a 645? :lol: seems like you have money to burn Jp

BL_RV0 07.09.2008 04:59 PM

No... I've just accumulated a lot of stuff over the years, and decided it was time to upgrade/downsize. I had about 21 cars before I started selling them off, I'm down to 5 now and have a few more to sell.

BL_RV0 07.09.2008 05:20 PM

Here's the new goodies:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...1215638148.jpg


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