E-Baja
 

Hi Guys! :intello:

I'm thinking about making a Electric Baja, but first I have a quick question.
- Does somebody has pictures of a E-Baja, where I can see how it is made? ( The FineDesign pictures are crap :lol: )

I also send a PM to a user who has a E-Baja, but didnt received anything.

Thanks in advance!

Here you go:
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ghlight=e-baja

The person with the e-baja is also stationed in Iraq, which would probably explain why he is not answering PMs.

Right now mike is doing research for my baja conversion...he is wanting to go with a new 2215 on 8s with an mgm 120/32 control. He thinks this will more than double the power output of the stock motor and shave about 5 pounds of her as well. I'm going all carbon fiber parts including a carbon fiber chassis from vantage which should take another pound or two off it (a 15 pound baja)! Grab a baja and send it to mike!

That sounds awesome! Please let me hear it if you know some more! :D
Wow, 15 pound, that's amazing!
When do you think your Baja is completely RTR?

And who is Mike? ( Rc shop owner or something? )

the owner of this forum and online store

Mike is the owner of the RC-Monster Store...hence this is his forum...this forum was created to supplement his store:party:

:oops:

I just came for the forum :lol: But I will look at the shop

Mike is the God of RC.

Mike is excellent to buy from. In fact I buy from him unless it's something he doesn't carry.

An 8s baja wahoooooooooooo! Especially if you can get it down to 15lbs. or so. Best of luck.

It'd be truly awesome!

I'll have to agree with the non believers on this one. Why convert a baja? The only reason I can see to convert one is if you want the fastest baja in the paddock. The stock baja is heaps of fun, very little engine maintenance is required and they run FOREVER on a tank of fuel. Even though if the engine in mine takes a dump I will seriously consider converting it but I think my LHS would disown/ban me if I did.

Edit: I suppose there is the noise factor as well but the baja goes the best in big open spaces anyway but it would be nice if it was a lot quieter.

I just wanna make a Electric Baja because I don't like gas/nitro, and the fuel is not cheap..
Ok, the Baja has a good sound, but I love electric sound also!

8 and 10s Lipos aren't cheap either. :lol::lol:

Also I've found that gas/nitro makes everything a little bit "gummier" and cause dirt to stick everywhere . . . I've found that electrics stay a little cleaner. :wink:

Lipo 10000mah 5S 18.5V - $299,-
So 600 dollar for 2 LiPo's, thats cheap, compared what a 5000mAh 7,4V LiPo here in the Netherlands costs :lol:

"I've found that electrics stay a little cleaner"
Another reason to make a E-Baja! :D I always saw that nitro's/gas cars were dirtier than electrics, but never thought about it, well found! :P

where are you getting a 10kmah 5s pack for $299? do you have a link?

The baja isn't that bad with the exhaust coming out the back cleanliness wise. We worked out too that the price for fuel is $3 a litre for the baja with the expensive petrol and 2 stroke oil and gives about an hour runtime. Nitro fuel is $12.50 a litre and gives about half an hour runtime in my .28.

www.maxamps.com


They also have 12000mAh packs 7,4V and many other LiPo's

personally id steer clear of that site. there are much better batteries around, and you will be wanting the BEST available for this project. id say 450+ for a GOOD 10K 5s pack...

I will wait till coolrunnings has his E-Baja, so I can look which batteries he uses, what the topspeed is and so on..

Maybe I'll buy a 3s LiPo from maxamps, for in my Rustler VXL, just to try those batteries..

the general consensus is that the ratings are bogus and they are overpriced. check out the zippy-r, where a 4800 3s lipo is less than $60, 25C.

Hi Guy's, first off this baja project makes little sense to the average baja owner because it will be very expensive and I am replacing an extremely fun and reliable gas motor, even though gas prices are way high the baja goes forever on just a tiny bit of the stuff (gas is way cheaper than lipo power). Plus I have spent some time on the baja forum and every time I mention this in a thread my ideas are highly criticized, they say that I'm ripping the heart out of the beast and taking away 80% of it's apeal...most really hate the idea and immediatley start flapping about run times. I'm doing this for performance and the ability to take it bashing anywhere anytime without having the police called on me. I am more fascinated by the weight reduction than anything which seems to be the gassers main complaint...not only will I shave 6-7 pounds off her but will also drastically lower the CG which I'm sure will have an awesome effect on handling (no bling bling). For power mike and I are talking about a neu 2215 / mgm 120.32 / and a pair of polyquest 4s 6000mah packs in series for 8s. That should more than double the power output of the stock engine plus eliminate all the low end bog. It will have a fully adjustable RCM motor mount and custom made pinions. I will allow mike to spend all winter on this for lots of research and testing (he wants to master this).

I have to agree with MTBikerTim. Converting a 1/5 gas is kinda pointless because your taking the fun out of running it. Dont get me wrong Im a huge nitro hater but gas is a whole nother story. Its easy to maintain, runs forever on a tank of gas, the sounds is awsome, smells great, alot of power and if you want a power upgrade you an always slap a bigger "cc" engine in it or a tuned pipe.

I'm going to have to agree as well. Gas has all of the benefits of nitro but without many of the drawbacks. I still prefer electric, but for the price to convert a Baja, I don't think it would really be worth it to me, because gas is already pretty great. If my engine ever explodes, maybe I'll give it a try, but I don't see that happening. :whistle:


Good luck on your project though, I'm really interested in seeing how it will go. Maybe if it really outperforms the gas version I may just change my mind...

I think the price is a mute point. Why? Well look at what some of these guys put into their baja's with special ported and polished engines and other hop ups to make it go faster. When push comes to shove it runs about the same price for same performance. You could easily have a toned down budget e-baja as well. I think the advantages of being able to run anywhere and anytime would be great.

Don't get me wrong, I like the bajas both ways, electric and gas.

The performance of a modified gasser wont come close to that of brushless. According to darksoul their 30cc full race mod engine is around 6 horse that's it....on 8s mike is talking about 8 horse and your forgetting about the huge weight reduction...a 21 pound buggy is now 15-16 pounds with super low CG when compared to the gasser all this means that performance is now on a level the gassers could not even dream of(no matter how much cash is thrown at it). As for the cost I will have to buy an expensive motor and esc but not the lipo's, I like alot of us have a couple of 4s packs already laying around plus chargers balancers and other associated equipment. Also in stock form (and this is what I'm told) the gas motor is a dog (2.5 horse)...ever watch the stockers on you tube...rubber band like exeleration for the first 15-20 feet. You can yank the muffler off or get a pipe ....now you have something that could wake the dead and it's still doggie! For brushless fanatics I highly recommend electric...for non electric lovers and beginners...stick with gas and you'll have a blast.

Brushless Baja rules.

In that time I can get my money together for my Baja :lol: Last 2 months bought a Traxxas Rustler VXL, a 2,4GHz radio and some other little things.. It will be too expensive if I buy a Baja right now..
I'm just 15, have no job, so.. xD

I would rather spend twice the money and get a good pack.......

people keep telling me you get what you pay for i have not heard that maxxamps are not that good i was just gona buy some for my lst conversion

do you have a link to these lipos you have mentioned i cant find them
are they any good how many cycles do the take are there ratings true...
cheers mate

i also think an e baja is a great idea i would love to brushless up my mcd race runner maybe in the future one day has any one ever heard of plettenburg bl motors i have heard they make motors for 1/5 1/6 scale cars

QUOTE=tc3_racer_001;198774]the general consensus is that the ratings are bogus and they are overpriced. check out the zippy-r, where a 4800 3s lipo is less than $60, 25C.[/QUOTE]

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you can PM Lincpimp he he did extensive testing with Maxamps packs and he could share some info with you...I would go with Zippys or True RC packs if you want to go cheap, or if you have the money a pack with Enerland cells, (Polyquest, Flightpower/Trakpower/Thunderpower, Neu)

links

zippys
you want the "R" cells
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...00mAh_25C_4S1P


True RC

http://home.comcast.net/~truerc/read...eady_packs.htm

thanks for the info mate you guys have probably just saved me some money as i was going to get 2x 11.1 10000mah maxamps lipos

cheers guys and thanks for the link

If you go high end cells anything made with enerland cells is top notch: Thunderpower, Flightpower, Trakpower, NeuEnergy, etc. Then there are also polyquest cells which I have heard nothing but good about.

Just a question, are the Neuenergy LiPo's made from CC? And where can I find those LiPo's? ( Site? )

you can go to Neus site but they dont up date thier site very often and they might say they in in stock but they are not and than you will have to wait weeks before you will get them instead of going someplace else which have them in stock. Mike does stock them


http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...eu3s5000car25c


Neu packs do have Astro Blinky balance taps, if you dont have Astro balancer there are adapters available

Here's mine. Made from an e-maxx. I love it.http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ghlight=e-baja

THAT IS SICK. i want one!

I already seen it.. That looks cool :lol: But I want a real Baja :tongue:

Electric baja rules!