More "SCT" motors
 

when can we expect another motor or 2 to add to the SCT line of motors. How about a 1412 1D in the green flavor.... couple that with the MMP in a combo and call it a day.

i think the 1412 1D would be one hell of a 2s motor for the 4x4s that race on the largest of 8th scale tracks.

Rootar, are the 14xx line of motors 36mm? I.e. "standard" 1/10 scale motors?

yup they are 36mm diameter but are 4 pole and use the same huge rotor from the 15 series 8th scale motors. It would basically be 1512 power screaming on 2s in an sc truck.

Niiiice :-) I was just thinking about how to set up my 1:10 4wd buggy with some very small 3s packs in series to get 6s with a MMP, and now I know what to look for motor wise.

Thanks much

I saw this on tower hobbeis a few days ago

Castle Creations 1/10 Mamba Max Pro SC System 2400kV

53,280 rpm on 6s... Looks like I'm waiting for more than just a Mamba XL HV to show up on tower.

Wow sweet combo. I don't know though I have come to love the 1406 motor I have. It has plenty of power for the tracks I race at on 2s and is outright balistc on 3s. Guess it depends on the driver but I find it harder to drive a 4wheel sc with too much power. My lap times are inconsistant. To each his own I guess the 1406 works so good on my setup and is lighter than my 550 motor so I'll stick with it for now.

That s pretty dumb, it should be a 4400 kv with the pro not a 2400 kv all the stupid tracks run 2s limits so we need more power on 7.4 volts altough im sure thats an amzing 3s setup its just not what we need.

Thats why I like the 4600 I can be legal.... Almost, my 1/8 tires still cause quite an uproar. I think the 2s cap should be lifted these cars are pretty heavy and it way more fun with the extra power.

Unfortunately, our rotor design is a little different the the Neu designs -- they are optimized for Wye windings, and don't make good Delta motors.

How about a 1415 .5Y? That would be about 4800Kv.

Thanx!

Patrick

:yipi: sounds good! that would one bad motor.

The only issue I see is that the max efficiency would be around 120A or so -- would need to be run with a Mamba Monster -- the Mamba Pro wouldn't be able to handle it.

Thanx!

Patrick

yea itd be a hungry setup but in some of these heavy trucks, itd be great to have on the big tracks.

Would such a motor be ROAR legal for 1/10th 4x4 SCT? I've got a monster.

no it wouldnt be roar legal but it would be "2s limit" legal which is the rule 99% of tracks are following.

none of the 550s are legal either according to roar.

ROAR rules state that the motor must be 53.00mm in length or shorter.

So, it wouldn't be ROAR legal.

Patrick, Any idea when the 1410 and 1412 motors will be offered without the ESC combo? I'm all set on ESCs but would really like to get the motors by themselves.

Another question for Patrick...
 

1410 motor has a 1/8" output shaft and I believe you mentioned that this was for ROAR requirements. I didn't take the motor apart to measure it but the bearing looks like it could accomodate a 5MM output shaft. If you offer rebuild kits for the 1410, would there be an option of a 5MM output shaft?

I have no concern about the 1/8" shaft in a car with a slipper, but in a CRT.5/SCRT10 or similar car with direct drive and exposed gears, I would be concerned that a stone in the gear could snap the 1/8" shaft (actually heard 2nd hand reports on RCTech of people snapping these shafts). Then you would have to replace the rotor anyway, so why not do it right away with a 5MM output shaft rotor?

+1 on the 5mm shaft request. I too would prefer 5mm shaft if it was available. Even a 4mm shaft would be preferable to the 1/8".

Side note... I ran the 1410 motor yesterday at the track for the first time in my SCRT and I gotta say its is a seriously great bang for your buck motor. Felt even more powerful than the HV4.5 motor I was running and it ran cool and smooth. Very impressed with the whole SCT 1410/sidewinder combo. The esc handled running the 6.2lb truck with no issues at all. I cant imagine how you actually did it but for $120 (less in many places) this thing absolutely rocks. Really looking forward to the 1412 version of this motor. (But please don't make me buy a MMP to get one...)

Can these 4 pole motors be driven by a RS Pro?

Don't see why not. I've used an rspro to drive a Neu 1512 4 pole motor with no issue. The 1410 wont be any different.

Thanks... does anyone know if CC will be making sensored motors in the near future?
Like a sensored 4 pole would be TOPS..

Who is this "we" you speak of, LOL! Just joking around, I know who you refer to and the point you make. But there are a lot of bashers out there too, and people involved in unregulated, unlimited racing. I'm sure Castle does their best to develop products so many people can use them, that's how they make money. So while you may say we need something else, a whole other group says that's exactly what we needed.

So exactly how long is the motor with the MMP SC system.53mm or less?

I did some experimenting today with the 1410 SCT motor in my Losi 810 buggy. This little motor is a freakin beast!! It ran like a raped ape on 3s with a different ESC. Ran a couple full practice packs on it and never saw temps over 140 degrees. Also ran it in some racing later in the day and after a 6 minute qualifier and a couple minutes of warm up laps it came off at 138 degrees. Broke in the main so I didnt get to see how it did there but Im sure it woulda been fine. This thing blew the Novak HV motor I was running completely out of the water. Not even a contest.

Dont know how you did it Castle, but DMAN this is a good motor for the money!! Nice work!!!!!!! Only wish I have, like others have asked, is for a version with a 5mm shaft and this would be a perfect motor.:yes:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...0/b410440f.jpg

52.95mm. :yipi: It has already been accepted by ROAR for SCT racing.

Patrick.

Any chace of a 5mm shaft version of the 1410 and 1412?

I asked this before and got no answer so far.

I have the new stampede 4x4 and i want put the sct combo MMP 2400 but with 4S lipo the truck are pretty heavy or i do wait for the next sct combo MMM 4800 2S lipo. which combo are the best for this truck (more efficiency) ? thank !

More than1websiite thats selling the MMP SC combo states the motor is a 1415 36mm x 70mm.Either way I have allready bought the MMP SC combo.Does the MMP SC ESC have a specific software profile for its application?

1415 rotor length
 

Since Neu uses the same 1515 rotor in the 1415 is the castle 1415 1y able to use a Monster 1515 1y rotor.Yea i know the kv values are different.I bought the MMP SC combo sold the ESC and end up paying 40 bucks for a new 1415 1y.I love pee bay.

Nno -- we used a little different rotor in the 1415 -- it's a little smaller in diameter than the 1515 rotor.

It was more expensive for the tooling, but we got better performance. This way we have more room for copper in the windings.

Thanx!

Patrick

Cool thanks.I was just curious if any parts were interchangeable.This CC 1415 is gonna go in my Slash 4x4 on 4s with the MMP I allready have in there.

Can anyone confirm the shaft size on the 2400kv motor ?

Cheers

1/8" shaft. Saw one with the MMP SCT combo at the LHS.

I guess Patrick is intensionally ignoring the question of if it is possible that 5mm shaft versions of these motors might be offered in the future. would really like to see that.:whistle:

Yeah -- the shaft through the motor is 5mm, and it's turned down to 3.15mm so standard pinions can be used.

If there is enough interest, we could do a 5mm shaft version.

Thanx!

I'd take one of each w a 5mm shaft!!

In how much time Patrick the Mamba Monster and 4800kv motor will be release ? and what motor are the best for stampede 4x4 (3lbs truck without battery) : 4800kv on 2S lipo or 2400kv on 4S lipo ?

Thank !

How about a 5MM shaft motor maintenance package with replacement rotor? (for 1406, 1410, 1415)