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pb4ugo 09.30.2006 08:38 PM

Toasted MGM 160/24?
 
So after letting it sit for a couple months while I was busy, I finally test ran my CRT with 160/24 and Lehner 1950 7t on 6s lipo. It was running backwards, but I wanted to run so I just dealt with it for two passes up and down my street. Ran like a bat out of hell. Brought it in to switch the two wires on the motor to fix the backwards running. Turned it back on, and nothing.

I re-did the programming, still nothing. The controller would blink it's LEDs for the programming sequence, but instead of a motor beep sound, I would hear a pop sound. Repeated this numerous times and switched the motor wires back just to see. Same results each time. I noticed one of the external caps had broken next to it's mount on the board, so I soldered it back on. Still nothing.

I hooked up the Lehner to a Mtroniks I have, and it worked fine. So i guess the question at hand is if any of you can think of something I missed. Or how is MGM warranty? Slow? Do I send it back to Mike or directly to MGM?

Serum 10.01.2006 03:03 AM

Can be anything. Bad ubec, lipo cutt-off? bad receiver (i had a dead channel on my schulze receiver)

or the on/off switch (it's acting the other way around. When it makes a connection it's switched off, and if you cut the wires loose, it's on)

pb4ugo 10.01.2006 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Can be anything. Bad ubec, lipo cutt-off? bad receiver (i had a dead channel on my schulze receiver)

or the on/off switch (it's acting the other way around. When it makes a connection it's switched off, and if you cut the wires loose, it's on)

Steering is working and the esc is getting signal (note that the leds were flashing for the programming sequence) so I think it's in the output side of the esc.

Serum 10.01.2006 03:31 PM

does it make the motor beep, while programming?

MetalMan 10.01.2006 08:50 PM

Here's your answer, Serum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb4ugo
The controller would blink it's LEDs for the programming sequence, but instead of a motor beep sound, I would hear a pop sound. Repeated this numerous times and switched the motor wires back just to see. Same results each time. I noticed one of the external caps had broken next to it's mount on the board, so I soldered it back on. Still nothing.

I'm also curious to hear about MGM's current repair time, since my 12012 has a burnt BEC chip.

Serum 10.02.2006 01:19 AM

Did you got yours from Mike?

MetalMan 10.02.2006 01:35 AM

Are you referring to me?

I got my original one about a year and a half ago, before Mike started selling MGMs (I think). With Mike's help, I got my repaired one back several months ago after waiting for 6 months.

aqwut 10.02.2006 10:31 AM

wooah man.... I'm sendin my 2 24160s for a software upgrade... I hope it doesn't take 6 months for this also.. I"m sending mine through Mike..

pb4ugo 10.02.2006 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Did you got yours from Mike?

Yes I got it as soon as he got them back in from the software upgrade from MGM. July I think? Also got the Lehner from him.

smhertzog 10.03.2006 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb4ugo
So after letting it sit for a couple months while I was busy, I finally test ran my CRT with 160/24 and Lehner 1950 7t on 6s lipo. It was running backwards, but I wanted to run so I just dealt with it for two passes up and down my street. Ran like a bat out of hell. Brought it in to switch the two wires on the motor to fix the backwards running. Turned it back on, and nothing.

I re-did the programming, still nothing. The controller would blink it's LEDs for the programming sequence, but instead of a motor beep sound, I would hear a pop sound. Repeated this numerous times and switched the motor wires back just to see. Same results each time. I noticed one of the external caps had broken next to it's mount on the board, so I soldered it back on. Still nothing.

I hooked up the Lehner to a Mtroniks I have, and it worked fine. So i guess the question at hand is if any of you can think of something I missed. Or how is MGM warranty? Slow? Do I send it back to Mike or directly to MGM?

The pop sound is not a good sign. Call Mike he will most likely have you send it to him, but call him anyway.

pb4ugo 10.25.2006 11:50 PM

Now I'm pissed. Tried it again tonight after it passed my visual inspection. A little puff of smoke from the motor output side was the result of powering up. A $365 controller that worked for 30 seconds.

I went 6s also expecting to use this controller. Are the Quarks still experiencing difficulty on 6s?

Now does anyone know the service situation with MGM? Still taking multiple months?

Serum 10.26.2006 01:57 AM

Auch..

Please contact Mike about this.

aqwut 10.26.2006 07:13 AM

I know what you mean dude, those smoke shows from the ESCs are always a piss'r off'r......

pb4ugo 10.26.2006 08:22 AM

I was in contact with Mike during the troubleshooting and will certainly contact him again. At this point I don't think I want it back even after repair.

Any answers for the other questions re: MGM service time and the Quark on 6s?

Any way to put the smoke back in so it will work?:005:

aqwut 10.26.2006 01:13 PM

hey, if there's a repair fee, and you don't want to pay for it.. I'll pay it and keep it... :) if you really don't want it ;)

pb4ugo 10.26.2006 03:05 PM

Looks like you have enough to keep ya busy allready.....

I hope some of these rumors about the Monster Max being just a few months out are true. My nitros can keep me entertained 'til then.

tallyram 10.26.2006 04:27 PM

as far as the quark holding up to 6s, i wouldn't count on it! i knew it was a risk on 6s, but purchased it anyway. mine won't work on 6s fully charged, it gradually starts to work as the voltage drops, maybe halfway through the packs. i was thinking about buying a 24/160 or 160/24, whatever it is. controllers suck! i havn't had one that works right yet.

aqwut 10.26.2006 04:59 PM

Yeah, controllers do suck..... especially when you run them over their specs.. ;)

I bought 2 24.160...because one was for backup, but for my case, it's proven to an excellent controller.... it's holdin' up to everything I've thrown at it so far... and the best thing is, it hasn't thermaled yet.. not even once.... SH*T, I should've have said that... now something's gonna happen... :)

captain harlock 10.26.2006 05:32 PM

I'm laying all of my hopes on Castle Creations shoulders.
They better do it right.

tallyram 10.26.2006 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aqwut
Yeah, controllers do suck..... especially when you run them over their specs.. ;)

I bought 2 24.160...because one was for backup, but for my case, it's proven to an excellent controller.... it's holdin' up to everything I've thrown at it so far... and the best thing is, it hasn't thermaled yet.. not even once.... SH*T, I should've have said that... now something's gonna happen... :)

last i checked, the quarks were rated up to 6s lipo. maybe they should have said 22.2 volts! who runs half charged 6s lipo?

chilledoutuk 10.26.2006 07:35 PM

If monster maxx is rated for 6s then it will work with 6s. I am personally going to wait untill the monster maxx is released for when i convert a 1/8th buggy to brushless.

pb4ugo 10.26.2006 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilledoutuk
If monster maxx is rated for 6s then it will work with 6s. I am personally going to wait untill the monster maxx is released for when i convert a 1/8th buggy to brushless.

Precisely what I wanted to do, but patience is a virtue I don't posess in abundance.:027:

BrianG 10.26.2006 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallyram
as far as the quark holding up to 6s, i wouldn't count on it! i knew it was a risk on 6s, but purchased it anyway. mine won't work on 6s fully charged, it gradually starts to work as the voltage drops, maybe halfway through the packs. i was thinking about buying a 24/160 or 160/24, whatever it is. controllers suck! i havn't had one that works right yet.

Why don't you just call Quark and let them know? If it is supposed to handle 6s, then it should. If it doesn't, then that is a defective product, which is what a warranty is for. These ESCs are kind of expensive to simply accept when it doesn't work as advertised.

tallyram 10.26.2006 10:03 PM

i agree totally! only problem is that i havn't heard of anyone that has successfully run one on 6s, so i doubt the replacement will work! i think it will work at 22.2v, just not 25.2v fully charged? maybe i'll send it off along with my midrangeless 12020. i just want a controller that works properly on 6s!

BrianG 10.26.2006 10:18 PM

By now, Quark has to have heard about the 6s issue and has looked into it. Maybe they already have a firmware revision out on the new ones? Who knows. I think it's worth a try - at least to call them and see what they say. They advertise it as 6s capable, then they should deliver. Hopefully it's just a software thing instead of a component. Whatever you decide to do, good luck and let us know how it turns out!

tallyram 10.26.2006 10:29 PM

if i can get a number i'll call and see about a fix or replacement. the quark seems like a nice controller on 5s, when i turn it on i have to hit reverse throttle before it will make the last series of beeps and start working. don't know what thats about! sorry for the hijack, i'll shut up now!

pb4ugo 10.30.2006 11:29 PM

Am I retarded? I can't seem to find the address to send this controller back to.

squeeforever 10.30.2006 11:31 PM

To send it to Mike? The address is around here somewhere. If you can't find it by using the search bar, you can e-mail Mike.

jhautz 10.31.2006 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallyram
when i turn it on i have to hit reverse throttle before it will make the last series of beeps and start working. don't know what thats about! sorry for the hijack, i'll shut up now!

You need to reset the neutral point. You probably moved the trim on the throttle a little. Just rerun the initial setup on the controller and that should go away.

pb4ugo 10.31.2006 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
To send it to Mike? The address is around here somewhere. If you can't find it by using the search bar, you can e-mail Mike.

I tried the search and have e-mailed Mike. It will probably just take him another day or so to respond.

pb4ugo 12.14.2006 07:37 PM

Update:
MGM received my controller the first week of November. I have sent three e-mails to them inquiring on the status. I've heard NOTHING.

I wouldn't be upset with a month's time if I had some confirmation other than USPS that they even received it. I need it back for my Savage conversion.

jhautz 12.14.2006 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb4ugo
Update:
MGM received my controller the first week of November. I have sent three e-mails to them inquiring on the status. I've heard NOTHING.

I wouldn't be upset with a month's time if I had some confirmation other than USPS that they even received it. I need it back for my Savage conversion.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a respose from MGM. What you described is pretty much standard procedure from what I have heard. They will eventually get back to you.... When is the question.

MetalMan 12.15.2006 12:14 AM

Similar thing happened to me about a year ago. I sent in my MGM Compro 12012, and after at least 10 emails and the passage of 6 months, I got it back, without any communication from MGM during that time.

Serum 12.15.2006 02:45 AM

Okay, this puts MGM low on my lis of controllers to buy..

Leaves us with CastleCreations and Quark.

MetalMan 12.15.2006 10:29 AM

I'm always interested to hear about others' current experiences with MGM's service, since the BEC chip in my 12012 is dead, and will need to be sent in some time (but for now it works with using a UBEC or receiver pack).

pb4ugo 12.15.2006 11:01 AM

I wonder if they want to pay me interest on my money while they have it.

Procharged5.0 12.15.2006 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb4ugo
I wonder if they want to pay me interest on my money while they have it.

Wouldn't that be nice!

I hope they can turn it around quickly for you. (or at least in a reasonable mount of time)

coolhandcountry 12.15.2006 06:37 PM

That kind of sucks. Long time and no esc. Keep us posted on time frame.

neweuser 12.15.2006 06:41 PM

I wouldn't hold my breath for interest though! And after a month and no communication, that is not good at all. It should not take that long to even look at an esc!!!

pb4ugo 01.06.2007 08:20 PM

3 weeks later and no change. Does anybody have any experience making a claim against USPS insurance?


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