What's up with the Lehners?
 

I've been waiting for 1950/6 for a while (7-8 months) and my 1530 for about a month.

The wait is annoying yea, but I know that isn't Mike's fault.

I did email him a couple times (once last week, once this week) and haven't gotten a response. I know it usually takes a little to get him to respond, but after a couple weeks with no response I have to wonder.

Just wondering if anyone can answer.

I dont thenk he even knows when. At this pont its kinda just wait and see. They have been telling him next week for months now. From the last note he sent to me when I asked a similar question it sounded like he was at his wits end with dealing with BK.

I was seeing about a Lehner too, since is looks like I'm stuck with running MM escs, but they've been out of stock forever. The only other place that has them in stock is a place that I refuse to do business with. I just ordered a Neu and will just hope for the best.

To keep a long story short;

Mike paid the motors/controllers to BK, and all of a sudden BK quit delivering lehner motors. (and the delivery wasn't top-notch to begin with.) So at this time, mike is in it bigtime (at BK) in terms of money and is f'ed..

He calls them on a regular base and they promise him to 'ship this week'. So far a few months have gone by and ~20 percent of the shipment showed up. (unexpected to say at least)

That sucks from Mike's position, really sucks! They can't go on screwing him forever, or can they?

Not from a legal point of view.

Wow...that really sucks. No wonder he wants to avoid the topic. Well, I hope BK "mans" up (even though its just a company lol) and sends Mike/us the stuff...

I just didn't want to look at it from a "legal" standpoint. International laws and arguments over jurisdiction is enough to make anyone cringe. I'm sure that when dealing with a company like BK, there has to be some fine print someplace wherein it is stated that by doing business with them, you also agree to the jurisdiction wherein contractual disputes are to be settled, and guess where that would be for BK. Of course, I'm must guessing.

I really do hope that things work out for Mike and the rest of you. I'm not nearly patient enough to have waited this long.

I wonder how "he who must not be named" gets his Lehners. He always seems to have them in stock? Either he's getting new stock, or it's old stock because no one will buy from him any longer. LOL.

Nah, won't happen. Been there and checked, no balls whatsoever. :)

LOL Daf!

I wonder how "he who must not be named" gets his Lehners. He always seems to have them in stock? Either he's getting new stock, or it's old stock because no one will buy from him any longer. LOL.[/QUOTE]

Well, HE is trying to become the one and only official agent of lehner motors and BK controllers. That's what I've understood from Mike a long time ago.

I too would not like to have business with that "nameless dude".

He once offended my Country and the whole of the Middle East. Well, no need to go on details.

If, God forbids, Mike is no longer able to get motors from Lehner, what shall he do?

Neu is our only hope, I guess, but the Mamba Max/ Neu thingy is quite irritating. If only Neu could make some 2 pole motors version of the 15 series and the 19 series....

I saw this on the BK site a few weeks back....and here is a link to it as well
http://www.bk-electronics.com/catalog/index.php

NEWS 2007 !
2007 no Support 0r Sale from LMT Motors or Parts !!!

...and this is on Lehner's site:
Due to recent events, we want to inform our customers that we are parting with our distributor BK-Electronics.

BK and LMT
 

On the lehner site it says that bk will no longer be a distributor, but all the sites they recomend are in german or japanese. (axis of evil all over again! :eek: )

Lehner wont answer my e-mails, even though I'm complaining about not being able to buy their products. 'The nameless one' can kiss my booty, and he doesnt carry the hi-amp variants anyway, and will b!tch at you for wanting to put it in a buggy!!! Poo on both!!! :mad:1

The best motor for the money is the one you can actually BUY. (maybee more than once even)

I have a Neu coming to mate with my Quark.
Best motor MY money can buy!

In my opinion the Neu is about the best motor any money can buy.

They rock.

it seems that cf has got some issues with the delivery of bk as well...

I'm hoping that the Nue will be all that I need. The only reason that the Lehners are even a consideration for me is because they run well with the MM controller. If the MM/Neu issue were to be "fixed," I wouldn't care if the Lehner wasn't around at all any more.

You're not alone with that opinion. If only we had more choices on contollers to run those nice NEUs. I'm fed up with Quark at the moment...

Please share your quark experiences Daf..!

Nothing new, just the usual "it will thermal after a few minutes if you don't modify it for better heat transport" symptom.

The latest one we had was pathetic... 60°C on the outside - thermal! :032:

And on one (this one was fine for a long time) I think the heat pad got loose after a crash or whatever, but it suddenly started to thermal on me.

And then I had the one with the blown caps too. Just today I sent another box back to S&T.

I guess some are worse than others, and you can add extra caps and all, but I'd rather not mess with this stuff on setups I just sell on. Stick to 4S in the meantime, buy a MM, and hope someone will release a beefy ESC soon, one with Castle features and Neu capability please :)

Team Tekin, anyone?

What's the goods on team Tekin??

Hi all, I'm also had problem with BK and, after some months, I've deleted the order and got the money back.

The new Lehner Motors distributor is Hydro Marine. Their site is german only but they replied me throuhg emails very quickly.

I've ordered a new motor three weeks ago (I'm live in Italy) and it should be on shipping just in this days.

I'll keep You informed.

Bye

My experience with Lenher was very bad.
I waited for a lehner from BK for 5 months and then I erase my order.
I know that official LMT distributor is now Hydromarine and I wrote them to order a 1950 about 20 days ago, but not replay.
I'm very angry and disappointed from them.

Hi Andrea, I live in Rome too.... :018:
In che zona sei? Io in zona prenestina, spesso vado a girare con un mio amico in un piazzale all'eur.
Che mezzo hai? Come è motorizzato?
Qualche volta ci si potrebbe incontrare per girare insieme.

Hi all, yesterday my Lehner 1940/7 is arrived, so I can confirm that the new Lehner distributor is by far better than BK Electronics. Besides, thanks to Lehner production process, I've been able to get a custom 1940 with a 5mm axle instead the standard 3,17mm or 4mm diameter.

Bye

Spo how do you like your 1940/7? I have the same motor (4mm shaft) and its my favorite.

Lets see some video! :027:

Hi, I've made just a few test and the feeling I had is that the motor is excellent. Lot of torque and lot of power, probably even too much for a light truck like the e-Savage.

Bye

andreazinno,

I see that it took about one month for you to receive your motor. Of coure, you are in Europe, so delivery would be faster to you. I would just like it ask if the one month wait that you experienced was due to your special order of the 5mm shaft. Do you know how long the wait would have been for you if you had just ordered a motor with a 4mm shaft?

Considering that the Neu motors require relatively expensive controllers, the Lehner motors seem like the best choice for a good motor.

Guys!

VERY GOOD NEWS!!!

Mike will be carrying the Lehners once again- FlightPower is the new distributor of Lehner Motoren and Mike said they're working to support him with the lehners. He says it's a matter of weeks befor they become instock!

I'm glad he's able to restock them again.

I think he'll be carrying a full line of FlightPower's lipo packs.

Awesome, thanks for the update Alawi!

Great news!
I'm hanging on the edge of my seat. Cant wait. Ive been craving a 1950 for a long time now.

Thats great! Maybe I'll be making an expensive and high end motor purchase a lot sooner than I thought. :027:

Oh man, what news!! When that happens, I think I'm going to relegate my Quark to backup duty, behind my other four MM escs.

I'm wondering if Mike will start taking preorders. LOL

I also wonder if Mike might be able to just order a bunch of them with the 5mm shafts.

Yeah, the 5mm shaft option would make things easier for wider gearing range.

Wow...best news I've heard in just about forever. I've been waiting for my 1950 for about 8 months now and my 1530 for about 3.

Hi Angel, the problem is that Lehner builds the motor just on-demand. When You put the order to the Hydro&Marine, they send the order (whatever it is for a "stock" motor or modified by special request, like the mine for a 5mm axle) the first friday after the order date, then Lehner took two weeks to built the motor and the, finally, the motor will be shipped.

Bye

two weeks is doable. 8 months is kinda long..

I just hope that Mike will get them here in time.

Yea...it is kind of long. But, I guess its ok since its also brought the MMM closer as well. Either way, I hope Mike does get them soon. I know he works hard for us and I know its not his fault. I am just tired of waiting though.

If getting a 5mm shaft means a two week wait, I'm good with that. I've been waiting much longer than that for equipment that I had to return because it didn't work. I am anxious to try out a Lehner. I've never heard of a shaft sliding out of a Lehner, or a motor being mislabeled.

Lehner has the turn number stamped in the endbell, at least mine did.