25% of all Castle Products in March
 

Fingers crossed the Monster Max will be there in time!

http://www.castlecreations.com/promo.../usa_sale.html


:diablo:

That would be incredible if the MMM was actually out in March and everyone got 25% off. They would be sold out of them is no time at all... :yes:

guess ill be waiting to buy the sidewinder till then

This should be a sticky for the month of March! :lol:

Just read that. Seriously, if any Castle employee is reading this, be proud of what you have done. I could care less where you buy your components. The money made by Castle is staying in the US and is benifiting All of us Rc adicts here. I am a business owner and cannot stand other companies moving out of the US to make products. I would rather pay American workers to make what I need that anyone in another country. We have a great country here and I think we need to be more patriotic in our thinking. Novak had the same issues with Cali and their "expetive deleted" lawyers.

I for one will not purchase anything from Castle while they are offering this discount. I hate to think that Castle needs to make amends for this " false advertising". Their stuff is made here, in the USA. Why should they feel the need to "compensate" us for this? This kind of BS is a slap in the face to American companies. This pisses me off. Big Time.

Sure their product are MADE in the USA. I could give 2 $hits about where they source their components from. Most likely they have to do that due to the fact that companies have pulled out of the US and moved to taiwan for cheaper labour. I will gladly pay more for a proctuct that employs ameriacn workers. Keep the money in thos country ans screw the world economy crap. Just my 2 cents and sorry to all of you who I may offend. Actually I am not sorry, deal with it!

If Castle wants to have a sale, fine. I do not mind that. But for this reason I do. I would suggest that we do not take advantage of this. I would hate to see an American company take a hit like this on their profit margin due to some whiners. Lets keep paying Castle what they deserve and they will keep the products we all want coming!

I gotta say when I first read linc's post I was thinking "what's the problem?" Then I went to Castle's site and I have to say I totally agree with you linc. I will buy my MMM as a pre-order and pay before March in order to make sure they get what they deserve for their product.

Good thing nobody spilled hot coffee in their lap while installing their Castle product or the lawyers could have shut them down for good.

Good point on the coffee. I like that!

I am sure that alot of people agree with me, what a bunch of BS. And I know plenty of people will take advantage of this. It just sucks IMO. Here we have a company who really seems to want to get products out to the fringe lunatics of rc (just came up with that, nice way to put it) and they get shot at for semantics. This kind of BS should be thrown out of courts and the people responsible should be heavily fined.

lincpimp, while I agree with you, I see the argument. It should be stated "assembled in the US" in all technicality. However, again, I agree that its a pile of steaming bull.

The products are great...how does the fact that some tiny friggen cap was made in taiwan hurt anyone?

Unfortunately, the price of the sidewinder with this sale is too good to pass up, so I'll probably pick up one. Hey, you gotta take advantage of what you can!

It is a tough decision to make. They would not have had the sale unless they wanted to. If this is some sort of reason to have a sale, well it is Castle's fault. I will buy my MMM from the LHS and support them, as it is important to have a Brick and Mortar shop available.

They are still making money same as they always do... the difference is that they are selling direct to the consumer instead of through distributors/dealers.

This would not be as big a deal if they were only to contact customers in their database, but in the internet/forum age.... word spreads like fire. :)

The ones probably missing out the most are the LHS. Castle probably won't like having to deal with all the orders though... as it's not what they typically do.

It's kinda like getting to be a dealer or sponsored guy for one month....

I Wonder???
 

You know it is good to read all of the proud American entries, and being retired US Navy I agree with the sentiment:lol:. Linc you seem to feel pretty strongly about supporting the good old USA:yipi:. Just as a thought I wonder what kind of vehicle everyone drives? How many of us are supporting the USA in the vehicles we drive (American Made):gasp:. I am not trying to piss anyone off. I drive a Dodge Grand Caravan LE myself. So I feel bad myself, but I am posted overseas where driving anything American is dangerous and just asking for trouble. Plus we purchased this thing for a couple almost nothing $$$$ from someone else leaving the area, so it blends right into the atmosphere that we have to live in while supporting our nations foreign policies.

My wife and I talk about this subject all the time and cannot see why Americans will not buy our own products to support our countries econemy. Can you imagine how much money we are pouring into the foreign econemy with our thurst for ultimate cars and trucks? It is terrible just to think of the amount of money we are giving away.:diablo: ONce again this is why we are handing over our powers to outher countries. Just a thought...:lol: Anyway great job to CC for what they do for us.

I can't agree with you more - America needs to buy American but only when it can afford too - i.e. cut the credit rush which is killing the country...

25% of MRSP for a MM of 160 is 120 which is still 5 more than BPP sells them for so I figure actually castle will make more money from this deal than selling to a hobby store.

It will be the likes of BPP and Mike that actually get hurt for this - So if it is a close deal I'd actually buy there that way we are supporting great stores.

BPP, RCM and CC are a beautiful combination!

:rules:

EXACTLY what I was thinking.

I wonder what the MMM will be directly from castle with 25% off?

Product Watch.
 

I can see it now. This is going to be like the bidding wars on Fleebay where everyone is waiting to see what the price is going to be and jumping on it at the last minute. We will see everyone clearing out the stocks in a few minutes:gasp:. If CC is eliminating the LHS/middle man by selling online directly through them, then CC's profit margine is probably still pretty reasonable even with dropping 25%. At any rate it sounds like it will be a good deal for us if the MMM makes it into this sale:yipi::party:. I for one am looking forward to getting to try it out on my toys. Buy American and support our way of life, before things go too far and we cannot turn it around.:lol:

I for one always try to buy a product that employs american workers or at least has an american based company behind it. The car issue is difficult, cause some import brand cars are made in the US but they money generated goes back to Japan, and the parts are foreign too. I own a few ford products, and do not really see the benifit to buying import vehicles. I am biased due to owning a body shop, and having worked on cars all of my life!

I've had mostly Fords over the years... six different ones...

I currently own 5 cars.... 4 of them are "American" brand... one was built in Japan but the parent company is Amercian lol

Durango
Astro Cargo
Escort GT
F150
Mazda 5

Out of all of them only one is probably actually 100% American.. my 1978 F150

Would be nice if Ford offered a 25% off for March... oh yeah... you can get that anyway with some of the huge rebates :D

The MMM wait reminds me so much of the wait on the PS3 when it first came out. It took forever then right when it came out you could'nt find them instock anywere and on ebay they were uber expensive. Like $2000!

i agree with you 110%, linc. my dad retired from GM - he worked there for almost 40 years, and that money is what raised me and my brother, put both of us through school, and is what pays his dr. bills now etc. The advertising agency that i work for has had Mazda for a client for 10 years (we came up with the 'zoom zoom' campaign) and i get a supplier discount on any mazda i want, along with other incentives - but i won't buy one. they're great cars, but US companies are having a difficult enough time competing and it's costing US jobs...BIG time.

i think it's absolutely horrid that something like that happened to Castle. they're proof that an american company can thrive and prosper, and make incredible products - what america is all about - and then something stupid like this happens to them. i'll continue buying Castle products - but not during the month of march. (thanks anyhow though, castle) :smile:

Doesnt Mazda sell a re-badged Ford SUV? You could buy that... But being a GM man that might seem even worse than going Japanese.:lol:

I admit I have not exactly researched this... but on the Mazda thing: Many of the cars are build in the US by US workers... and Mazda is a "division" of Ford who owns Mazda. So is a Mazda really not an American car? (Some Mazdas are build in Japan, like my 5... but I'm talking about the majority which are built in the US)

Interesting at least....

Also... on a similar note, I bought my Escort GT back in 1993.... and it's half Mazda too. It uses the drivetrain from the Mazda Protege.... and now it's still running great with well over 200,000 miles with nothing more than oil changes for the most part.

ford owns a portion of mazda, but it's still a foreign company. but when mazda does well, it doesn't save ford jobs when ford isn't doing well. it only saves mazda. well... and my job, as they're a client of the company i work for. :mdr:

the 'big 3' are going through some tough times competing with honda, nissan, toyota and mazda. ford apparently is going to offer buyouts for all 50,000+ hourly union employees so they can hire people to do it cheaper.

Ford builds the truck and they just put the mazda badge on it I believe.

the mazda tribute is the same as the ford escape, yes.

I've owned a '95, '97 and '02 Mazda PU trucks recently and was told they are built in NJ in a Ford factory but by Mazda workers. The story I got is Mazda makes less than Ford workers and they pass the savings along on the cost of the truck. In '95 I compared 2 identically equipped Ranger/Mazda SE pickups and the Mazda was ~ $2000 cheaper.

The only difference was in optioning - Ford allows (or used to, haven't looked lately) real flexibility in picking and choosing what goes on the truck. Mazda offers only 3 "packages", take it or leave it.

Reply.
 

You see that is exactly the problem with our country today. We are so spoiled that we don't care about the big picture anymore. All we care about is what we can get out of it. We buy foreign cars because we have become so acustomed to getting everything we want, at any cost, and right now. Even if it means that we are selling out our power in the world order to every country that can do it Cheaper, Faster, and give it to us right now. Soon there will be no auto makers left in the USA, because we won't stop buying from the other guy. In the long run of things to come there will be nothing left but foreign auto makers right here, telling us that we are making American vehicles because we are building them. Even if all of the profits goes directly to them. Regardless of weather or not the USA car is as perfectly made as the other car, we should be spending our money on the our own soil, The good old USA. I am not trying to single anyone out, or piss anyone off:lol:. I am merely making a point that WE are selling this country out one car at a time. WE are allowing foreign countries to purchase companies right out from under our noses, and ease their way into controlling our fait. If we continue to follow the path we are on at this moment I hate to see where the USA will be in the next 50 to 100 years:gasp:.

Yes Mazda is completely owned by Ford. Mazda's HQ are now in Irvine, CA. Can you get much more American?

What about a Toyota? Built in America (most models), designed in America, is it American? The workers everyone seems so concerned about are supported right here in the USA. Bottom line profit dollar (which isn't as much as you may think) goes to Japan, but is that a bad thing when the bread and butter money stays here?

Is it different when an American company sources assembly, components, or complete products from overseas? The workers here aren't supported, but the executives are.

I guess the point is, I will buy what seems like the best value. I really want it to be an American product, but if America can't be competitive, they will soon learn to be.

ford only owns 33% of mazda. no one 'completely owns' anyone anymore. the lines have been blurred. i believe mazda's US HQ is in CA - but they're still headquartered in Hiroshima, Japan.

ford may try to model their company after mazda, including sharing powerplants and 1 vehicle, but mazda still acts independently from ford. the CX-7 and CX-9 were created solely by mazda - the CX-9 was technically built off the mazda6 platform... the edge, ford's closest comparison, doesn't share much.

i am sorry for bringing up the car company point/debate - i didn't mean for this thread to head in that direction. the point i was trying to make is that i feel for castle and their plight.

Castle 'fesses up
 

25% off MSRP.....Castle will be laughing all the way to the bank!

Tower's standard pricing is 35-40% off MSRP.

When Novak published (5-10-07!) restitution information in a similar legal situation, we offered 100% refunds to certain customers who felt that they had been misled by the "Made in USA" claim.

One Hundred Per Cent.

Lawyers are ruining lives every day. They should all wear big red dot's and be considered unprotected by human rights. Shoot them, stab them, turn them into hood ornaments and fish food. Then when they are all gone let the court system center on common scense.

Sorry for Castle, even the people who win cases get screwed by the lawyers...

I don't necessarily agree. It was our lawyers, who advised us to move quickly to mitigate the potential financial exposure and minimize the time and money we had to spend on the suit.

I think both situations are ridiculous and unfortunate for 2 great companies. Stupid nit picky crap like this wastes so much money it not even funny. and in the end the consumer is the one who pays for it all.

NovakTwo, and what do you pay anually to retain your lawyers? Do you suppose you have needed them if there were no opposing lawyers?

Do you think a judge would have nit picked and screwed Novak if it had actually gone to court?

Sorry, lawyers racists liars and theves all make me feel violent. :) I would rather be a happy nice guy.

We have never had (or needed to have) lawyers on retainer. Early on in this matter, our adviser said his job was to keep us "off the beach." So that when the giant, class-action law suit "wave" headed in our direction, we would stay dry.

The lawyers' job is to keep people out of court.

PS....I'm not quite the happy, peaceful person I once was, either......:wink:

It's one of those debates that can go around in circles. We in North America have minimum wages and such. The pay scales fluctuate so badly that those on the lower end have no choice but to find things cheaper. Cheaper is outsourced materials. By buying outsourced, it sends money out of the country. Yet if the people that get stepped on the worst want any creature comforts, they have to. Other countries have people working for less money. I have mixed feelings on unions. I have been in unions where only the union reps benefitted and the union actually protected the wrong people, those that should have been fired but couldn't be. This was the security guard industry. I was office staff (dispatcher and csr) and non union and I had to field all complaint calls. Guys showing up to work with firearms when we are not allowed to carry them, so we move them to a new site rather than fire their arses, because the union fought it. Flip side I was in CAW when working for Ford in the detail shop and we had great reps.

Now the fine line of where no internet discussion should ever go.... politics. Both sides of the border need a better taxation system to allow lower pay scale people to earn more and keep money in the country by being able to afford homegrown items... I am a proud Canadian and one of the non anti USA ones. I'd like to see the Border completely gone and have North America.... At least I can understand what your heads of state are saying LOL... wtf language does Chretien speak anyway. It's not English or French LOL (to end on a lighter note)...

I never heard about that. I have a SS5800 system I would gladly give back with that invitation. :rules:

I'm with you guys on the buy USA stuff, except on some things. For example, on a family car - great, we have a Suburban because it's perfect for our family and it's a well built rig. However, when I think about buying a sport sedan - what is a guy supposed to do? Tell me a car made in the USA that is comparable to the Audi S8 and I'm in. I just can't think of one.

Buy a srt8 charger, much more fun than the audi. Plus audi is very similar to vw, and I just do not see the qaulity in either brand. I fix cars for a living and have driven everything sold for the last 10 years. I have yet to be impressed by a european car, and the japanese stuff is boring. Most of the larger chrysler stuff is based off mercedes floorpans and suspension, and they seem to very nice cars, for the price.

Right on, I can appreciate that. In fact I've considered the SRT8 Charger but it's no Audi S8. The S8 is just in a different level there. However, I will say that the products in that Charger/Magnum family are some of the first USA cars in a while that have piqued my interest. Now if they refine the interior, make it a little smaller, give it AWD . . . we might really have something. I've also been pulling for the CTS-V but it's got a ways to go too. Sorry for the highjacking of the thread here, but cars are just too fun to talk about! :party:

I don't like Audis... but I gotta assume the S8 is a hella more expensive than the SRT8?

There are some really nice American cars out there now. Part of the problem the big 3 have now is image... perception...

When critcizing American cars I think often people use the best cars of the planet as a basis to measure up... (not all cars can be BMW M series) and sometimes people expect German quality and Korean price... at the same time... or it's "not good enough" know what I mean?

One word answer to the critics: Corvette :D