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highflier 04.30.2008 07:44 PM

Motor on a reasonable budget
 
Hi all,
I just ordered a MMM for myself. That means I will be upgrading the wifes truck to my current brushless setup. Now time to figure out what I need to order for a motor. But first a little info for all.

Current setup
6s A123
BK warrior 12020 controller
Wanderer 9xl
misc other hop up.

My wife will be running NMHI packs 14.4 volts, I am hopeing with the right gearing I can pass the 9xl to her vehicle and get her more power, more top end and better run time then the stock brushed titans. Do we agree this is possible??? She liked her truck until she saw mine after I got the A123's in it.

Now with a MMM on the way I would like a motor that will run cool and effiecent. I am sticking with 6s1p A123's

I am fairly happy with the power and speed, More is always nice but not needed. However the Motor runs HOT (I have the RCM heatsink already)

So the real question is. How much difference will I notice with a Mega vs a Wanderer? I was thinkiing maybe the ACN 22/35/2, 22/45/1, or the 22/30/2f Roughly they are about $150.

I can afford a Nue but is is really that much better then a Mega. Like it is almost 2 times the cost. I could almost get a Mega for me and my Wife for the price of 1 NUE. So hear is the 100 buck question.

For the Money what motor is the best buy, for a basher that may show up for a race from time to time.

Highflier

suicideneil 04.30.2008 08:29 PM

Given that info, I'd go with the mega. Neus are great, but if its only bashing you are doing, the mega should be more than enough grunt and quality for your needs. For 6s A123, I'd say a motor in the 1800-2000kv range - 22/45 being my personal choice, though the short 22/35 still produces plenty of power I gather.

As for her-indoors, I think she will be very happy with the 9xl on 14.4v- just gear it for about 35mph according to the calculator. I would say it will perform better on a higher voltage, like 14 cells instead of 12, but Im sure she'll be more happy either way :yes:.

bdebde 04.30.2008 09:11 PM

I say; go for two mega motors (same as neil said), and ditch that wanderer.

big greg 04.30.2008 09:24 PM

any lincs to the megas?

Arct1k 04.30.2008 09:57 PM

Wait 2 month maybe for the castle motor... Should be about the price of a mega

highflier 04.30.2008 10:53 PM

I thought about waiting but Then my MMM will just be sitting and the summer would ne 1/2 over by the time I get to it. I only go out side in the summer. I hate cold weather.

I like the idea of the lower KV. I would love to go 9s1p A123. Just don't have a controller that is up to the task. Maybe people will find out that the MMM can handle that kind of Voltage.

Not to be to critical but if the intro date is anything like the MMM It may be next year you see the post "Castle motor preorder now!"


Highflier

big greg 04.30.2008 11:49 PM

waiting is not one of my strong points, i need a motor now! lol

jzemaxx 05.01.2008 09:58 AM

Go with a KB45-8XL. Killer motor from what I have seen and priced right as well.

Arct1k 05.01.2008 11:55 AM

How about buying a used Align XL (check Linc) and then getting a CC motor when available...

suicideneil 05.01.2008 05:28 PM

I was gonna get the align too, but from what I understand it isnt as responsive as a normal inrunner- slow to react to throttle changes.

http://www.megamotorusa.com/Shopping...s+ACn22+Series

Takedown 05.01.2008 05:43 PM

You might want to take a look into Medusa motors "V2 AfterBurner Series". The 36-60 2000kv or the 1600kv would work great. Basically their Neu knockoffs- http://www.medusaproducts.com/motors/036-V2.htm

highflier 05.02.2008 10:07 AM

I thought the kb45 was basically a wonderer XL motor. I guess that is not true?

I am still leaning towards the Mega 22/45/XX but I am a lilttle mixed up on KV's
The 9xl is 17XX KV the mega's are as follows
2500 /1
2100 /1e
1300 /2

I don't want to have to put a fan in my truck so temp is a big issue. My first guess is to go with the /1e version.

My second thought is to learn more about the kb45. Maybe if I buy a overkill motor but gear it to just meet my wants.. I could get it to run cool enough. Plus at the price of the KB45. I could put one of the wife's truck if the 9xl does not work out on 14.4 volts.
Scratch that... KB does not have a higher KV then the Wanderer :(

Highflier

83gt 05.02.2008 10:25 AM

I second Takedown (for once, lol). The medusa V2 motors are looking very attractive. They are said to be very efficient, and similar in design to NEU. CHEAP TOO!!! Not to mention they are available in many different KV values. There's a good review at e-savage forums, and several users here have picked them up as well. I know it's going to be my next motor. :).



J.

BOOGIE444 05.02.2008 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highflier (Post 168484)
I thought the kb45 was basically a wonderer XL motor. I guess that is not true?

I am still leaning towards the Mega 22/45/XX but I am a lilttle mixed up on KV's
The 9xl is 17XX KV the mega's are as follows
2500 /1
2100 /1e
1300 /2

I don't want to have to put a fan in my truck so temp is a big issue. My first guess is to go with the /1e version.

My second thought is to learn more about the kb45. Maybe if I buy a overkill motor but gear it to just meet my wants.. I could get it to run cool enough. Plus at the price of the KB45. I could put one of the wife's truck if the 9xl does not work out on 14.4 volts.
Scratch that... KB does not have a higher KV then the Wanderer :(

Highflier

The KB is a way bigger can than the feigao / wonderer XL motors. The KB has waaay more torque but it also has a 6mm shaft and a different bolt pattern than normal motors so a little bit of machine work is neccassary to make them work.

Takedown 05.02.2008 04:27 PM

83gt, Yeah we dont agree often but hey you really cant go wrong with a Medusa. I plan to slap the 36-50 3300kv V2 in my rustler when my MM I just sent in gets back. Should be a sick combo on 3s-4s.


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