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Henry3058 01.26.2008 04:15 PM

Velineon ESC and high end motors
 
I noticed these specs on the Traxxas set up

* Handles Brushed, Sensored Brushless, AND Sensorless Brushless motors (No Motor Limit)
* Input voltage: 4.8V-11.1V (4-9 Nimh/Nicd cells, 2-3 Cell Li-po w/Li-Po Cutoff)
* Rated Current: 200A
* Peak Current: 320A
* BEC Voltage: 6V
* On-Resistance: 0.00075Ohms
* PWM Frequency: 12,000Hz
* Battery Connector: Traxxas High Current Connectors
* Motor Connectors: TRX 2.5mm Bullet Connectors
* Motor/Battery Wiring: 12 Gauge Maxx Cable
* Profiles: Sport Mode (100% Fwd, 100% brakes, 100% rev), Race Mode (100% forward, 100% brakes, no Rev), Training Mode (50% fed, 100% brakes, 50% rev)
* Weight: 90g (3.17oz)


and wanted to know if it could handle something like a Neu 1515? what motors have you guys tried.

lincpimp 01.26.2008 04:19 PM

You will not want to run a 1515 on 3s lipo, 4s or more will be better. I am not impressed with the velineon esc smoothness, or startup, especially compared to a MM with the latest firmware.

crazyjr 01.26.2008 11:36 PM

I would have disagreed with you Linc, before the update. the VXL WAS better in feel to the mamba till then

lincpimp 01.27.2008 12:07 AM

Ok, crazyj, maybe your was, but my vxl rustler did not work very well, on 2s or 3s. In any case 3s is too little voltage to run a 1515 effecintly. You would need a high kv motor and some killer batts to make it work right.

JerryF504 01.27.2008 12:51 AM

I swapped my VXL for a MM, and the VXL was way smoother on the Velineon motor. I haven't upgraded the firmware yet, so I don't know how much better it will be or how it would work on a Neu motor.

lincpimp 01.27.2008 12:59 AM

Do the firmware upgrade, the mm is like a completely different esc. I plan on trying a novak motor with a mm now in my xx-cr.

streethot 03.12.2008 12:24 AM

but no one ever have told with vxl and neu 4 polers are compatible....

my engine

Neu 1509/1y/s Smooth Can Sensorless Brushless Motor

team3six 03.12.2008 12:30 AM

Just passing on the info. I posted this on another thread that was related as well.
Traxxas is reccomending that LIPO is NOT run on their systems now. Apperently the ESC's can not handle the power as previously stated. They made a statement that Traxxas will not honor damaged ESC warentees on units run on LIPO.

Sorry, this is the actuall statement

Li-Po's Not Recommended For New E-Maxx

Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 at 11:35 AM by MikeW

Although we reviewed the E-Maxx 16.8 in the February issue, using Li-Po batteries, Traxxas does not recommend doing so. Ni-MH batteries should be used in the application instead. Using Li-Po’s runs the risk of fire, explosion, or simply ruining the battery packs. Never attempt to use Li-Po’s in the 16.8, unless you are very experienced and familiar with Li-Po technology. The use of NiMH packs will NOT significantly diminish the performance of the new E-Maxx 16.8.

lincpimp 03.12.2008 12:39 AM

Just cause the evx lacks a lvc. No other reason to not run lipo. They are just being saftey concious as an over-discharged lipo can cause some issues! Hook up a li-saver or a novak smart stop and all is good again.

streethot 03.12.2008 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streethot (Post 154512)
but no one ever have told with vxl and neu 4 polers are compatible....

my engine

Neu 1509/1y/s Smooth Can Sensorless Brushless Motor


its a simple question....even looks stupid but its better always ask right?

triggeraa 03.12.2008 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six (Post 154514)
Just passing on the info. I posted this on another thread that was related as well.
Traxxas is reccomending that LIPO is NOT run on their systems now. Apperently the ESC's can not handle the power as previously stated. They made a statement that Traxxas will not honor damaged ESC warentees on units run on LIPO.

Sorry, this is the actuall statement

Li-Po's Not Recommended For New E-Maxx

Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 at 11:35 AM by MikeW

Although we reviewed the E-Maxx 16.8 in the February issue, using Li-Po batteries, Traxxas does not recommend doing so. Ni-MH batteries should be used in the application instead. Using Li-Po’s runs the risk of fire, explosion, or simply ruining the battery packs. Never attempt to use Li-Po’s in the 16.8, unless you are very experienced and familiar with Li-Po technology. The use of NiMH packs will NOT significantly diminish the performance of the new E-Maxx 16.8.

Traxxas is refering to the non brushless (EVX) EMAXX. Not their brushless system.

lutach 03.12.2009 02:18 PM

I had this ESC and it didn't work with a 4 pole motor. I gave the ESC away for free lol.

bruce750i 03.12.2009 04:12 PM

Hmmm My VXL ran a 60mm 4-pole Medusa on 3s pretty smooth for me, after I made some wire extensions to reach the motor.(Rustler) My MM glitched all over with TRX radio when the VXL was good in the same setup.


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