Jato Vs. Havoc

What’s going on everyone.... I'm brand new here I ran across this forum as I was doing a google on the Jato Vs. the Havoc. I was at the Traxxas website and was reading about the new Jato I went to Hobbytown and the manager was telling me about this new truck from Schumacher called the Havoc. Like the Jato it is RWD and is running 50+ out of the box. They're calling it a "stunt truck" I'm a fan of Traxxas but this Havoc has me pretty intriuged... It has a .28 engine one speed trans. It looks pretty tough. Has anyone drove one of these yet or can anyone give any opinions?

Thanks in advance!

[Nick]

Havoc.

That simple. :)

[Gustav]

Yeah i'd say Havoc too.useless on a race track but then the jato isn't legal without mods so you'd get a losi or associated for that anyways.

it's alot of power for a light rwd truck though,traction will always be the limiting factor.easy out drag a jato though if you can keep the thing straight.

I'd like to try the 11 port Sirio in that thing.Has a ball diff i think though which would concern me a bit,although if you keep it tight it should be OK.If it must be nitro though i think i'd get the losi AD2 for the handling or the HPI MT2 since it's 4wd.

[JOHNNYMAXXIMA]

I saw that truck at the IHobby Expo in LosAngeles last week. The guy at the booth gave a pretty good presentation about it. It looked pretty impressive. Me and my brother were both impressed. I told the guy I may have considered it if it were 4wheel drive but he said they were going for more of a stunt truck with it and it performed better with 2wheel drive.

Originally posted by JOHNNYMAXXIMA
I saw that truck at the IHobby Expo in LosAngeles last week. The guy at the booth gave a pretty good presentation about it. It looked pretty impressive. Me and my brother were both impressed. I told the guy I may have considered it if it were 4wheel drive but he said they were going for more of a stunt truck with it and it performed better with 2wheel drive.

Yeah the guy at hobbytown usa also was at that show and hes was the one who suggested I try it out... perhaps he wants me to be the guinea pig.... lol in any case I think the Jato is bad arse and my Revo is bad as* ... so I was kinda of leaning towards Traxxas since I was familiar with the product and performance.... Would you consider the Havoc over the Jato?

[Serum]

I'm also hearing very possitive things from the jato, it's very fast.
My guess is that it's lighter than the havoc, though the havoc i powered with a bigger engine.

[squeeforever]

i would go jato...or get left behind. i think the jato will have much more after market items than the havok and it would be easier getting parts. although, i am not familiar with the havok. im assuming it will do about 80 or so knowing schumacher.

Originally posted by squeeforever
i would go jato...or get left behind. i think the jato will have much more after market items than the havok and it would be easier getting parts. although, i am not familiar with the havok. im assuming it will do about 80 or so knowing schumacher.

The website for Schumacher is claiming 50+ ..... 80 is hella fast... lol It does have a big ol engine though..

[Serum]

http://www.rcuniverse.com/product_gu...product_id=675

70mph... ? that is rather quick isn't it?It has got t THREE speed transmission.. not a 1 speed..

Originally posted by Serum
http://www.rcuniverse.com/product_gu...product_id=675

70mph... ? that is rather quick isn't it?It has got t THREE speed transmission.. not a 1 speed..

I didnt see the 3 speed tran... The guy at hobbytown went out to the show in LA two weeks ago and he told me it had a one speed... whats this guy on?!?!? lol

[Gustav]

It could be geared higher than 50 i'd say with the right big block.(50 is plenty though)My LST can hit 45 with a sirio 11 port and that weighs 5.5 kg.You need to buy 3 gears at a time though i guess.i think the shumacher are not an internal 2 speed,it's multiple spurs and pinions isn't it? Jato you can change gearing by just a different clutch bell i think.

I think the sensible money goes on the Jato though,it's a known quantity and you can't really go wrong with it,and i guess the sirio .23 fits? if you feel the need for more power,i'm guessing it has as much power as traction on most surfaces already though.

[JOHNNYMAXXIMA]

I too am a big fan of Traxxas. I have 3 Maxxas' (1 T & 2 E's). Having never driven either car, I can't say whch is better. I can tell you though I prbobably would have bought the Havoc on the spot if it were 4wd. It appeared to be a little more "beefed up" stock vs. stock over the Jato.

[crazyjr]

I have a Jato and despite some growing pains (new to nitro), i haven't regretted the decision to buy it.

I'm planning to run it on a dirt oval this weekend. It is supposed to be a big track (A friend of mine said about 200ft straights), so this should be fun. It won't be a race, but a test and tune because the track just got finished and they haven't set up the rules yet. We'll see if they throw me off the track.

[rctruckz]

The Havoc is 1 speed (not 3 as some people think) maybe 3 speed will an option later on :-)

It's classed as a Stunt Truck & 1/8 scale... was originally 1/10 until they beefed it up, bigger engine/tyres etc

Was supposed to be out this week but there been 1-2 weeks delay.. more info @ http://www.racing-cars.com/main.asp shummy homepage :-)

& check: http://www.racing-cars.com/forum/for...841&PN=1&TPN=5 details of the tranny components... excellent quality imo compared to others :-)

I dont plan on buying a Havoc simply because i already have 2 XTR's & just splashed out on a new FG MB Pro :-)

[Gustav]

Thanks for the info,drivetrain looks beefy to say the least,guess there's no need to worry about the ball diff.

Here's a linky to the video:
http://www.cs-electronic.com/Schumacher/Havoc/havoc.php