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virusss · **Help me please -** 11.04.2005, 05:14 AM

Exscuse me for my bad english i am Italian,I would want to modify mine savage in brushless, I wanted a council on the motor and on the regolator to acquire, I would want to use two packages lipo from 7.4 volt 8000 mh, I would want to know if possible also the pinion to use. Thousands thanks Ettore

harald-hans · 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by virusss
Exscuse me for my bad english i am Italian,I would want to modify mine savage in brushless, I wanted a council on the motor and on the regolator to acquire, I would want to use two packages lipo from 7.4 volt 8000 mh, I would want to know if possible also the pinion to use. Thousands thanks Ettore

Hi Ettore,

sorry but I have no experience with a Savage but Brushless is Brushless and here are some "good" examples for motors and controllers:

Lehner 1940/8 - www.lehner-motoren.de or

BIGMAXXimum - www.plettenberg-motoren.com

For controllers look here:

20120 / BEC MicroCar - www.bk-electronics.com or

future-18.97FW - www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de

Hope this helps you a little bit !?

Greetings from Germany

harald-hans

P.S. I use also two LiPo packs with each 7,4V and 8000mAh !

Dafni · 11.04.2005, 06:27 AM

Hi Ettore. Welcome to the forum!

There are plenty of choices for motor and controller. Depends on how much money you want to spend.

Stay away from Schulze, IMHO. And also the Plettenberg motors are overrated, for this money you can get a real high-end motor.

virusss · 11.04.2005, 06:40 AM

thanks for your reply my budget is 600 $ I have also acquired the kit of conversion, I would want to use 2 packages lipo from 7.4 volt 8000 mh

nbcaznmaster · 11.04.2005, 07:18 AM

dont forget a warrior 9920!

virusss · 11.04.2005, 07:20 AM

yes thanks,therefore who advises setup a much powerful one to me to use with 14 cells?

harald-hans · 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by Dafni
Hi Ettore. Welcome to the forum!

There are plenty of choices for motor and controller. Depends on how much money you want to spend.

Stay away from Schulze, IMHO. And also the Plettenberg motors are overrated, for this money you can get a real high-end motor.

Stay away from Schulze - why ???

For this money you can get a real high-end motor - for example ???

Greetings, harald-hans

nbcaznmaster · 11.04.2005, 07:45 AM

well, schulze has a reputation for getting burnt up because of "LOOSE CONTACT" that never occur. I wouldnt go for pletten, i would go for that new motor...shoot! i forgot which one it is... is it the 19 lehner sereis? The big new ones taht pump out enough toruque to eat any transmission

harald-hans · 11.04.2005, 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by nbcaznmaster
well, schulze has a reputation for getting burnt up because of "LOOSE CONTACT" that never occur. I wouldnt go for pletten, i would go for that new motor...shoot! i forgot which one it is... is it the 19 lehner sereis? The big new ones taht pump out enough toruque to eat any transmission

I have the 1940/8 Hi-Amp-Version from Lehner (with the BK 20120 controller) also and at least there is no difference in price - if there is any technical difference - I will see that when booth trucks are ready to run - good possibility for me to compare.

Greetings, harald-hans

Dafni · 07:53 AM

High end motors = segmented magnets (for partial-throttle capability)
Such as the Lehner 19 or 22 series.

Solid magnet motors, even if they are 4-polers, have a narrow efficiency range. Generally at full throttle. (i.e. at partial throttle they get hot) Motors with segmented magnets have a wide range of high efficiency.

If you don't mind spending 600 bucks just for a motor/ESC combo, I would say get a 120amp Warrior and a Lehner 1950.
If you want good power for less money, I would suggest a 99amp warrior and a Feigao (or Wanderer) XL.

Stay away from Schulze - Why? Have you seen Serums Hall of Shame?? They have a nasty tendency to burn up without apparent reason, and are backed by poor customer support.
Also, this delay before they go into reverse is something I don't really like in such an expensive ESC.

To each his own, Harald, this is just my opinion. Altough many members here agree on this. Schulze/Pett combos get glorified in german forums, for no reason at all. Even a cheap Feigao 7XL has more WOT efficiency than the Bigmaxx.

Don't want to stirr up anything. Ask Serum if you want a second opinion.

Cheers
DAF

harald-hans · 11.04.2005, 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by Dafni
High end motors = segmented magnets (for partial-throttle capability)
Such as the Lehner 19 or 22 series.

Solid magnet motors, even if they are 4-polers, have a narrow efficiency range. Generally at full throttle. (i.e. at partial throttle they get hot) Motors with segmented magnets have a wide range of high efficiency.

If you don't mind spending 600 bucks just for a motor/ESC combo, I would say get a 120amp Warrior and a Lehner 1950.
If you want good power for less money, I would suggest a 99amp warrior and a Feigao (or Wanderer) XL.

Stay away from Schulze - Why? Have you seen Serums Hall of Shame?? They have a nasty tendency to burn up without apparent reason, and are backed by poor customer support.
Also, this delay before they go into reverse is something I don't really like in such an expensive ESC.

To each his own, Harald, this is just my opinion. Altough many members here agree on this. Schulze/Pett combos get glorified in german forums, for no reason at all. Even a cheap Feigao 7XL has more WOT efficiency than the Bigmaxx.

Don't want to stirr up anything. Ask Serum if you want a second opinion.

Cheers
DAF

No problem for me - just want know for my personal evaluation - maybe you are right - I will post my experience as soon as possible - and believe me - if the Schulze get burned down in such a way you described I will burn THEM DOWN here in Germany :M: :M: :M:

Greetings, harald-hans

Dafni · 11.04.2005, 08:02 AM

All the power to you harald! Let us know how you like it. I wish you the best of luck.

I didn't meant to be rude or anything. And I also don't wanted to say this is better than that. Just wanted to share my opinion.

And there's a general opinion around here, from experienced users. Just wanted to point this out to our new italian friend.

Peace, maties

DAF

virusss · 11.04.2005, 08:13 AM

it could go well like motor Feigao 540 10L, and regolator warrior 9920+ 2 packages lipo 7,4 v 8000 mh? Which speed I could obtain? Autonomy? the bec it works with 2 packages lipo from 7.4 v whit this regulator? Thanks thousands:)

virusss · 11.04.2005, 08:17 AM

I have seen as the warrior controller is out of stock,this one is ok?
20120 Brushless Car Controller
Thanks at all

Dafni · 11.04.2005, 08:24 AM

The 99amp Warrior should be back in stock pretty soon.

For your application, I would suggest the Feigao 7XL instead of the 10L.

Don't forget an UBEC.

You should be able to get around 40mph.