Anyone notice the new clutch adaptors from Tekno!

[js058515]

Tell us what's going on Tekno. What's with the new 3 shoe and the new 2 shoe systems? I already use the current clutch system and love it.

2 shoe: http://www.impaktrc.com/product_info...oducts_id=3937

3 shoe: http://www.impaktrc.com/product_info...oducts_id=3891

[lincpimp]

The 2 shoe model is just an updated version of the original. The 3 shoe uses 1/8 scale clutch parts and bells.

[George16]

I never had a good luck with the elektri-crap. I tried running it on my conversion but it was getting hot too quick.Mind you, I was using a 1/8 scale 4-shoe clutch shoe setup too.



Here's my thread on how I installed a 1/8 scale clutch on my conversion.
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16311

[teknorc]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

The 2 shoe model is just an updated version of the original. The 3 shoe uses 1/8 scale clutch parts and bells.

Correct. The new 2-shoe does away with the flywheel, collet, and clutch nut. So it's lighter, stronger, spins truer and is less expensive to setup.

The 3-shoe is also a 1-piece design and provides the most tuning and clutch shoe options along with the best performance. The new 3-shoe with the .7mm springs is one of the best setups we've tried.

As for the Elektri-Crap, I thought we emailed back and forth until your problem was solved. If not, give us some more details on your setup so we can try to help rather than calling our product a piece of crap. There are many reasons it can get hot, and the fact that we've run them competitively in truggies for over a year without issues leads me to believe there might be something in your setup that may be causing the problems (locked in 2nd gear by chance?). Or try the new 3-shoe...

We are exchanging all of the old adapters for the new 2-shoe adapter free of charge (just pay $2 for shipping). Send us your old Elektri-Clutch to our address with a return address and return postage and we'll take care of the rest.

Or, send us your old adapter and $10 and we'll upgrade you to our new 3-shoe adapter (clutch springs and shoes not included, but you may have some that work already off of your nitro).

The new 3-shoe adapter (no shoes) will now be included in all of our conversion kits except the Losi's, which will include a full 2 shoe clutch. The reason for just including the adapter is that most people converting should have springs and shoes that will fit right on whereas the Losi 4-shoe clutch and clutch bells are not compatible with our new adapter.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by teknorc

Correct. The new 2-shoe does away with the flywheel, collet, and clutch nut. So it's lighter, stronger, spins truer and is less expensive to setup.

The 3-shoe is also a 1-piece design and provides the most tuning and clutch shoe options along with the best performance. The new 3-shoe with the .7mm springs is one of the best setups we've tried.

I definatelty think making a 1 piece design was a great idea. While i do not currently use the clutch in any of my vehicle I will say that it worked well in the revo I converted with the rest of your kit. I did leave the 2 speed and mech brakes and it always worked flawlessly. I did use a smaller than normal motor on 5s lipo and the clutch and 2 speed helped that motor deliver excellent performance despite being a little undersized. I only missed reverse, but not really a big deal.

[js058515]

Originally Posted by teknorc

Correct. The new 2-shoe does away with the flywheel, collet, and clutch nut. So it's lighter, stronger, spins truer and is less expensive to setup.

The 3-shoe is also a 1-piece design and provides the most tuning and clutch shoe options along with the best performance. The new 3-shoe with the .7mm springs is one of the best setups we've tried.

As for the Elektri-Crap, I thought we emailed back and forth until your problem was solved. If not, give us some more details on your setup so we can try to help rather than calling our product a piece of crap. There are many reasons it can get hot, and the fact that we've run them competitively in truggies for over a year without issues leads me to believe there might be something in your setup that may be causing the problems (locked in 2nd gear by chance?). Or try the new 3-shoe...

We are exchanging all of the old adapters for the new 2-shoe adapter free of charge (just pay $2 for shipping). Send us your old Elektri-Clutch to our address with a return address and return postage and we'll take care of the rest.

Or, send us your old adapter and $10 and we'll upgrade you to our new 3-shoe adapter (clutch springs and shoes not included, but you may have some that work already off of your nitro).

The new 3-shoe adapter (no shoes) will now be included in all of our conversion kits except the Losi's, which will include a full 2 shoe clutch. The reason for just including the adapter is that most people converting should have springs and shoes that will fit right on whereas the Losi 4-shoe clutch and clutch bells are not compatible with our new adapter.

That's the answer I was looking for!

I just had a great day at Revelation today with no electrical issues and one minor mechanical issue. All while using Elektri-Clutch V1. I actually had so much run time that I ran out of battery in my 3PK and had to call it quits.

[George16]

Originally Posted by teknorc

Correct. The new 2-shoe does away with the flywheel, collet, and clutch nut. So it's lighter, stronger, spins truer and is less expensive to setup.

The 3-shoe is also a 1-piece design and provides the most tuning and clutch shoe options along with the best performance. The new 3-shoe with the .7mm springs is one of the best setups we've tried.

As for the Elektri-Crap, I thought we emailed back and forth until your problem was solved. If not, give us some more details on your setup so we can try to help rather than calling our product a piece of crap. There are many reasons it can get hot, and the fact that we've run them competitively in truggies for over a year without issues leads me to believe there might be something in your setup that may be causing the problems (locked in 2nd gear by chance?). Or try the new 3-shoe...

We are exchanging all of the old adapters for the new 2-shoe adapter free of charge (just pay $2 for shipping). Send us your old Elektri-Clutch to our address with a return address and return postage and we'll take care of the rest.

Or, send us your old adapter and $10 and we'll upgrade you to our new 3-shoe adapter (clutch springs and shoes not included, but you may have some that work already off of your nitro).

The new 3-shoe adapter (no shoes) will now be included in all of our conversion kits except the Losi's, which will include a full 2 shoe clutch. The reason for just including the adapter is that most people converting should have springs and shoes that will fit right on whereas the Losi 4-shoe clutch and clutch bells are not compatible with our new adapter.

TeknoRC, thanks for your support. I still didn't get the temps to go down even after putting the new clutch you sent to me. Like I stated in my build, my conversion's tranny is locked in 2nd gear. I'll probably try it again in the future but for now, I'll just enjoy running the truck using the long-shanked pinions I bought from your store.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by George16

TeknoRC, thanks for your support. I still didn't get the temps to go down even after putting the new clutch you sent to me. Like I stated in my build, my conversion's tranny is locked in 2nd gear. I'll probably try it again in the future but for now, I'll just enjoy running the truck using the long-shanked pinions I bought from your store.

If you have enough motor to not have startup issues, the clutch is not really needed. It is just another option, some will like the feel, others will prefer a direct drive with a pinion. I generally prefer the latter, but I did find a great use for the clutch adapter with a nitro 4tec bell and ran an 1/8 scale on raod car with a 2 speed. Worked like a champ. I did use al clutch shoes from integy, the 3 shoe type that came with a different flywheel. No slip and not bad temps either.

[teknorc]

Yeah, 'the locked in 2nd' is probably the cause of the excessive heat. Clutches need a certain RPM/gearing combo range to work properly and locking in 2nd takes the clutch out of that range. So if you want to keep the single speed, direct drive is probably the way to go.

We realize the clutch is not a perfect system, like lincpimp said, it's another option. Our new 3-shoe is pretty cool though and allows a greater range of the above mentioned RPM/gearing combos. With the thinner .7mm springs, it would probably work good on a single speed Revo.

[himalaya]

Keep on expecting a clutch-free conversion kit from Tekno. If that comes available I'll buy my second kit for my buggy.

[George16]

James, I used to run the TeknoRC 1515 1Y on 5S on the revo. However, I had since taken the Neu out and installed the Medusa 36-70-2000 motor. I think there is enough motor in there and it just overpowers the clutch. Anyway, I'm happy with the pinions now so I'll run it that way until I get the itch to try the clutch again.

TeknoRC, how come you didn't go all the way with a 4-shoe?

[teknorc]

Originally Posted by himalaya

Keep on expecting a clutch-free conversion kit from Tekno. If that comes available I'll buy my second kit for my buggy.

All of the kits can be clutch-free. You can run a long shank pinion on all of our kits and we are now including the extra motor mount plates with the Losi 8/8T and RC8 kits. The Mugen, Jammin, HB, and RC8T/SC8 kits do not need the other motor plates to run a pinion. Also, only the Losi kits will still include a whole clutch setup (shoes, springs, etc). The others will just have the new 3-shoe included for use with your existing shoes, springs, clutch bells.

George16, there is no inherent benefit to a 4-shoe over a 3-shoe so we decided to go with the setup that is the most common and readily available. You can use our clutch shoes and springs or just about any others that are available (Kyosho, Mugen, Ofna, HB, AE, etc). We won't be doing a Losi compatible adapter since it is a much heavier setup and and we saw no extra benefit during testing. The trick with our new system is the thin springs. Since there is no motor to stall, we can run thin springs for great engagement. You can run thicker 1.0-1.1 springs as well if you want more of a nitro feel. The .7mm and .8mm springs feel very close to direct drive in our testing, just smoother.

[George16]

TeknoRC, I tried .8, .9 and 1.0 Mugen clutch springs. It wasn't doing any good. I even tried it withouth the springs. Can you send some of those thin springs you're talking about? Thanks.

[teknorc]

I'm not aware of anyone else selling .8mm springs for 3-shoe systems, do you have a link or part #? Either way, I think we are comparing two different clutch systems.

[Semi Pro]

what is the fix because i have battled this overheating clutch for a year on my revo, when i asked tekno they said it was fine even though it isnt, i am still replaceing clutch shoes every time i go to the track, if there is why didnt you guys email me about it?