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Losi LST E-Conversion Kit -
03.11.2010, 10:45 AM
Saw this over on the RCCA forums this morning. Looks like a great alternative to the TDR stuff.
EDIT: Actually, upon further looking, it appears like this may only work with a 36mm motor which makes it less than desireable. Boo!
Edit again: Make that 39mm, not 36mm
http://losi.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSB0017
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03.11.2010, 11:00 AM
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...EDIT: Actually, upon further looking, it appears like this may only work with a 36mm motor which makes it less than desireable. Boo!
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But of course! They want you to use their motors...
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03.11.2010, 12:37 PM
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But of course! They want you to use their motors...
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Losi motors are something like 39mm diameter aren't they? Can't be that this conversion requires 36mm
SH Z-Car, Custom Crawler, 8s Savage, 12s XTM XLB 1/7 buggy, 4wd 4-link rear/IFS Pro4 truck, Custom Hyper 10 Short Course, Belt-Drive Mammoth ST 1/8 truggy, 4s 17.5 MM Pro HPI Blitz
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03.11.2010, 11:01 AM
Good for an easy conversion on a measly 3s.
Losi SCTE SC4 Pro 4000kv, Tekin RX8, 2S
MP7.5 Kanai III Tekno Neu 1515/2.5D 1700kv MM 4S
LST 2 Carbon CC 1717 1Y 1580kv MM 6S
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03.11.2010, 11:16 AM
Battery behind, motor behind, ESC behind -> fail. You won't be able to give 30% throttle and it will already flip backwards...
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03.11.2010, 11:28 AM
Looks like some good thinking went into this! Losi is definitely trying to get in line with Traxxas and HPI with electric MT's. However, they are thinking wrong. Why don't these companies look to forums of actual users, and places like here that pioneered the electric conversion? I don't get it. We have done practically all the research and development one could need...
Anyways, cudos for their 2 steps in the right direction, and boo to the 1 step back...
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03.11.2010, 11:41 AM
Wow, could they get that battery pack any higher. Did you see the pics of all the wheelies? Thats what happens with all that weight at the back and up in the air.
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03.11.2010, 12:05 PM
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Wow, could they get that battery pack any higher. Did you see the pics of all the wheelies? Thats what happens with all that weight at the back and up in the air. 
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Thats also what sells to the uneducated...
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03.11.2010, 09:58 PM
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Wow, could they get that battery pack any higher. Did you see the pics of all the wheelies? Thats what happens with all that weight at the back and up in the air. 
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Thats also what sells to the uneducated...
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Yep, wheelies are cool. To a point and we all learn this at some point. The issue is they kept the 2 speed and mechanical brakes, so the brake servo is still there in the way of the pack being placed up front. The only other reason I can think of is convenience and cost. It makes the kit a bolt on affair, no modification to the chassis plates for the user, no new plates to manufacture. I was wondering when something like this would be availible, never thought they'd keep the 2 speed + mechanical brakes though. I wonder if the Excelerin could push the truck to decent speeds as a single speed though? Cause Losi would just be shooting themselves in the foot if they came out with a mount that accepted casle/neu motors.
LST XXL MMM 1717 Custom Fabbed Conversion
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03.11.2010, 12:16 PM
I looked through the assembly instructions and noticed something that I may have been unaware of - does the LST tranny also have a built in center diff?
Losi 8T 1.0, Savage Flux - XL style, LST XXL, Muggy, 3.3 E-Revo Conversion and sitting outside 425hp, 831 Tq Dodge Ram Turbo Diesel. It SMOKES
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03.11.2010, 12:22 PM
Thinking more on this conversion. Ditch the two speed part of it (and loose the reverse servo), lock the tranny, and put that battery case up front over the steering servo.
I'm not sure if its really limited to the 36mm motors - that looks to be more of a heat sink - and they show you layering tape on the motor to get it to fit.
Losi 8T 1.0, Savage Flux - XL style, LST XXL, Muggy, 3.3 E-Revo Conversion and sitting outside 425hp, 831 Tq Dodge Ram Turbo Diesel. It SMOKES
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03.11.2010, 02:16 PM
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I'm not sure if its really limited to the 36mm motors - that looks to be more of a heat sink - and they show you layering tape on the motor to get it to fit.
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It's limited to whatever the diameter of the heatsink internals are. The heatsink bolts to the chassis and the front plate that bolts to the motor bolts to the heatsink. No way you're getting anything like a Castle/Neu in there.
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03.11.2010, 07:56 PM
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I looked through the assembly instructions and noticed something that I may have been unaware of - does the LST tranny also have a built in center diff?
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Every LST based monster i ever seen had none, but wouldn't be too hard to make one
Work because i gotta, play because i wanna
People here hate Nitro, I love it. I start it, run it about 50 ft from me and it dies, I go after it. Perfect exercise
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03.11.2010, 12:31 PM
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Wow, could they get that battery pack any higher. Did you see the pics of all the wheelies? Thats what happens with all that weight at the back and up in the air. 
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Even with my LST, 5S LiPo as far as it can be in the front of the chassis, it does standing backflips if it has got enough grip...
This conversion is a joke...
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03.11.2010, 12:24 PM
Looks like the kind of conversion typically done by a certain other company. Won't mention the name but it starts with F and ends in Design.
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