8ight-t Brushless Conversion Kits

[Mentat]

I just purchased the CC Mamba Monster 2200kv combo, and the Losi Electric conversion Kit. I am hoping it isnt going to be a mistake, do i need to worry about anything with this setup? I was also thinking about the Tekno RC V3 Brushless Kit for Losi 8T 1.0 (w/ 4mm chassis, for Castle/Tekin motors). Whats the main differences between the kits? Who here has had some experience with both? I am wondering if i should get the Tekno or just stick with the Losi Electric Conversion kit. Thougts/suggestions?

[nitrostarter]

Look in the truggy section. There is a thread on this with up to date discussions.

[js058515]

Also check rctech.net as there is a little more traffic flow for responses. Also there is a lot less bias towards any particular kit.

[junkman]

I have the losi kit, if I had it to do over again would have def went with the rcm mount. The battery tray and rec box is okay, but I don't like the mount.

[DwightSchrute]

Yeah, i didn't like the motor mount of the losi conversion at all. it kinda limits your gearing IMO. i did like the battery box, as it's huge and will take any battery i have. the radio /reciever box and center diff brace is really nice so i ended up getting the losi kit, scrapping the mount and getting the RCM.

here's my thread on my conversion:

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20559

the only thing that makes me leary on the tekno is i've heard that it also can be a pain to gear up because they use that opti clutch-bell system. (menaing they use the nitro clutchbells with the conversion) however, they can also use long bore 5mm pinions. but i haven't seen alot of those in large tooth pinions either.

rc-products makes a conversion, but imo, the battery tray looks a little small for me.

there is also a company in China that's now making conversions. they look ok, but i haven't heard any results about them yet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/XPRO-1-8-Buggy-B...3A1%7C294%3A50

if it were me, i'd get the losi conversion kit, sell the motor mount and get the RCM. you can gear that thing through the roof if you're ever into doing speed runs. I've got one of mine geared 43/25. i've yet to see another mount be able to do that.

Good luck.

[DwightSchrute]

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL

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Some inconsistancies with the rcm mount:

There should be the option to not have to raise the center diff from stock. It should allow the use of plastic spurs. In some cases you can't slide the pinion gear so that it aligns with the plastic spur. I've gotten the plastic spur to work with a .5mm shim between the rear center diff bearing and the spur and a spacer between the motor and the mount.

i just built my 4th 8ight RCM/Losi conversion, and i've never had an issue with using the plastic spurs with Mike's mount, or a pinion alignment issue. here's a close up of an example:



mine seem to fit fine.

as far as getting the angle of incline to decrease on the driveshafts, you can also lower it some more by eliminating the "sort of L shaped losi spacer" they include in the kit that fits under the mount. in the pic i just put up, it's there, but it dosen't need to be. i've since taken them all out of mine. here's it without it in the one i just built:



I'd like to be able to use more than just 2 spurs with the losi chassis ie: the 45t and 43t, but it's fine with me as i can always use smaller pinions.

what bothers me about the tekno conversion is the lack of choices i have if i want to gear up. i've never seen a 25t long bore pinion yet. other than that, the tekno conversion looks like a work of art.








also, FYI to some of the people that buy the factory rollers, be it the 1.0 RTR or Pro or 2.0.... i hear alot about factory building issues with them (not the kits obviously )

Everything from stripped screws to threadlock parts that won't loosen even with a micro-torch ...also, another common one is all the binding they get in the drivetrain. i've had everyone of those happen to me and quite a few other people have complained of similiar issues as well on other forums.

i've had to re-build every one of my pre-built rollers because of various mess-ups on the factory builds. some examples are: the diff spacers holding the diffs in are being installed incorrectly, the driveshaft's being threadlocked with the roll pins off center, the center diff being tightened so it wobbles, thus rubbing against the mount, the axle carrier bearings not being pressed in enough and creating even more drag...the pinion couplers being nearly impossible to remove, etc.....i really hope they consider releasing a 2.0 kit. I love the 8ight, but i should have bought all kits to begin with. it's a lengthy build, but it saves on alot of headaches.

here's a few pics to enjoy of my conversions:

[PBO]

Dwight

What gearing are you running in the first photo and have you had any issues with the Losi/RCM assemblies?

Also how much better are the Losi wheels over the other ones?

[DwightSchrute]

Originally Posted by PBO

Dwight

What gearing are you running in the first photo and have you had any issues with the Losi/RCM assemblies?

Also how much better are the Losi wheels over the other ones?

i believe i'm running a 45 (plastic spur)/25 combo there. i've also used 43/25 with great success in speed runs as well.

no issues with the losi/RCM assemblies. Mike's mounts are the best available imo. I've purchased 4 from him in the past 3 or so months i've been running the 8ights.

which losi wheels? the white rally wheels with the v shaped grooves will go 100mph+ without ballooning or the glue becoming an issue. nitrostarter recommended them to me, and their incredible. i don't know if their belted or not but they are made of very sticky hard rubber. here's a link:

http://www.losi.com/Products/Feature...dId=LOSA17768B

the yellow dish offroad tire/wheel combo are just the stock set from the losi kit. i haven't used them yet. I expect them to be as good as the proline bow-ties.
nice to see you around rcm, PBO.
-rocket

[DwightSchrute]

if that first link is broken for the rally tires, here's another:

http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...y-Buggy/Detail

[PBO]

thanks for the links, I'm definitely getting a set of those! I'll also be removing the Losi mount to make way for the RCM when my roller touches down but like you will retain the better Losi bits, I still can't consider the Tekno conversion better than the Losi/RCM combo...so much neater, more practical & adjustable

Great looking builds as always Dwight, I know you're not the biggest user of vid but any chance of seeing some soon?

[DwightSchrute]

Originally Posted by PBO

thanks for the links, I'm definitely getting a set of those! I'll also be removing the Losi mount to make way for the RCM when my roller touches down but like you will retain the better Losi bits, I still can't consider the Tekno conversion better than the Losi/RCM combo...so much neater, more practical & adjustable

Great looking builds as always Dwight, I know you're not the biggest user of vid but any chance of seeing some soon?

hopefully soon. my old highschool (geez, i can't believe i've been out of highschool for almost 20 years) just let out for the summer (huge huge parkinglot) and that's about 40 minutes from where i live and 5 minutes from my parents house where they can watch my daughter while i'll try to video some speed runs .

I could do some 6S videos now, but I'm almost done with my HV-110 12S 8ight, so if i gotta do some videos, i'd rather film everything at once when the new 8ight is all done seeing as i'm perpetually lazy to the bone and will probably only ever do one video because everyone under the sun has been asking for some which i can understand........ but I rarely have the urge to go and actually do anything after a day with a 3 year old with endless energy. I'm a stay at home dad. I have the best job in the world and love it, but it's exhausting most days.





--rocket