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Ben's Electric Bike. - 06.10.2009, 07:48 AM

Well Here it is, starting the project off with a 20in Redline Bmx Bike.. All steel frame etc. Its a nice bike to begin with, steel frame and some decent wheels.


To power it I have one of these big ass brushed electric motors that i have laying around- and a 16:1 gear reduction box. Also picked up some 35 chain and sprokets for drive... BrianG- your gearing calculator is a life saver.. have it spec'd out at 22mph on 6s lipo. with low gearing and lots of reduction it should keep amp draw relatively low.

Just a project to get me from point A to point B being as lazy as possible.

Planning on making a steel subframe/ motor mount and weld it to the existing frame.


Pictures will be up later today.


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Here is the bike..


Is there any way to directly control a speed controller with something like a potentiometer?

I can get a twist grip for an electric scooter if there is any way make it work.

if not, does anyone have or know how to make a cheap servo tester?
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06.10.2009, 10:13 AM

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You know what's coming for you Ben .

No Ben, don't do it. Steel is much harder then aluminum and if it bends, it'll be much harder to bend it back to it's original place . So have you fixed you mount yet .

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There are some very intelligent guys in the forum who has vast experience with such a project. I'm sure they'll be here guiding you.
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06.10.2009, 11:54 AM

You can use a servo tester for controlling the speed controller if you have an rc type controller.
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Metalman had a link to a twist grip control that would run a rc type esc. Can't remember where he had it though.
   
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"Bad lutach first"

You know what's coming for you Ben .

No Ben, don't do it. Steel is much harder then aluminum and if it bends, it'll be much harder to bend it back to it's original place . So have you fixed you mount yet .

"Good lutach second"

There are some very intelligent guys in the forum who has vast experience with such a project. I'm sure they'll be here guiding you.

Thanks luciano, but i have no problems with steel, it will be built with braces etc to stop from bending..

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You can use a servo tester for controlling the speed controller if you have an rc type controller.
I know I can, but twist grip would be pretty neat

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I was in Academy Sports this past Saturday and stumbled upon the battery powered bicycles for him and her. They use a brushed motor like the electrics scooters do. They just basically adapted the scooter setup onto a bicycle.

Yea, but the speed controllers they use are not as efficient or powerful as any Rc controllers. Im probably gonna use my MMM for the moment in this one.

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Metalman had a link to a twist grip control that would run a rc type esc. Can't remember where he had it though.
A searchin' I will go.

THanks for the info guys.






Now, since i want to retain the stock pedal system- would i be able to set a slight drag brake on the MMM and use the regenerative abilities of the speed control to recharge the batteries? I dont know how much power the regen braking actually saves..


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06.10.2009, 12:03 PM

I was in Academy Sports this past Saturday and stumbled upon the battery powered bicycles for him and her. They use a brushed motor like the electrics scooters do. They just basically adapted the scooter setup onto a bicycle.


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I can't wait to read the plea to castle to replace your MMM when you fry it - lol
   
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i cant wait to see this!
   
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velosolex - 06.10.2009, 04:28 PM

hey,

look at this:
http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk...solex_5000.jpg

put the motor and the electronics to the front; batteries into the center of the frame. you will need a big outrunner, at hobbyking they have som 8cm monsters with about 250 r/min.

you could design a mount, where the motor gets - by pulling a lever - contact to the tire. so when you don't want to use the motor, no problem when going downhill very fast.

they have now designed a e-velosolex:


anyways, cool idea, btw!!!!

just recently I saw a high-end e-bike on tv, fast like a motorbike.

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I'm not sure if they have this, but it would be neat to have a motor setup so that the more force you put on the pedals, the more motor assist there is. And you could set the relative assist amount. Wouldn't need a manual throttle this way.
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hmm if you were to have a pressure sensitive potentiometer, on the pedal and have a proportional value applied to the speed controller.

Does anyone know if I can run two seperate speed control in series to a motor- like 4s on each for 8s to the motor... its brushed.


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hmm if you were to have a pressure sensitive potentiometer, on the pedal and have a proportional value applied to the speed controller.

Does anyone know if I can run two seperate speed control in series to a motor- like 4s on each for 8s to the motor... its brushed.
I know for a fact you can't. I tried on my Brushed rs4, both esc's burned up instantly when applied throttle. Nice project ben, I put a weed eater motor on a chopper. Been crusin around on that.
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