Texturized Vegitable Protien

[reno911]

I am sick of this crap. I went to Taco John's today. Being that I like it and went there when younger, and it is what I prefer over Taco Smell and Del Crappo. I love their beef burritos. I haven't been to one in a really long time (4-5 years) so I thought I was treating myself out to a nice thing. WRONG. They too are using "Texturized vegetable protein" in their meat.

Now you ask why so mad.

They use SOY to make this crap, since it is ridiculously cheap. Like everything made out of corn, soy is the next cheapest overproduced thing in the US.

So naturally any one who is allergic to soy will have issues with this stuff. So after eating the scrumptious burrito and their uber delicious little sopapilla bites, I found myself next to the porcelain queen in an oh to familiar situation.

Stupid. I can't eat anything anymore. Everything has this stuff in it more and more. Instead of real freaking meat there is this shit. (Sorry had no better word) It is just as bad as freaking High Fructose Corn Syrup. America sucks at food. It is all fake. Tastes great due to other additives but is fake. Why can't they just use the real thing. I know there is a price thing and all, but still I am willing to pay more for real food. I usually do, hence not going to fast food but from a once and a while. But, when I do choose to eat out fastly, I would appreciate at least a warning. Oh, thats right no labels for ingredients.

This is in so many things believe you me. Campbell soup uses it in their soups. Fast food restaurants. Down to hotdogs, certain prepped meats. It is sickening. I am surprised no one has died yet as they don't label anything.

(End Rant)

[snellemin]

I feel you on this subject.

[reno911]

Originally Posted by snellemin

I feel you on this subject.

Thanks. Allergies?

[josh9mille]

Is textured soy protein bad for people? (not including people who allergic to it). I figured it was just basically like tofu, it just absorbs the taste/smell of whatever it is put into. I see that stuff on lots of things as well, but figured its just soy/tofu.

[reno911]

Noting yet. Very little research has been done to show anything. Kind of like HFCS, it was introduced, seen as a miraculous discovery, than later down the road discovered to have poor results. I.E. HFCS playing a strong role in obesity.

To be honest it sounds like a pretty decent thing though. A simple way to add protein to a meal. Which it was used for way before corporate America got its hands on it. Mostly medical use before, i.e. tube feedings, meal supplements, just an easy way to introduce proteins back into diets. Now it is used to replace real things. Instead of being added as an extra nutrient for protein, it is being used to replace the use of more expensive, real, natural food proteins.

I have done limited research into it. I just know to avoid it. But, FDA hasn't got a stronghold on regulating it, so labeling it isn't up to par as say Peanuts. So you don't always know what it is in. Same goes for a lot of Soy products. I would dare to say that 80-90% of Americans bread has Soy flour in it. Soy Lecithan, heard of it. It is in everything. It is a thickener. Cheap as dirt too.

I would like better labeling, but I am starting to think that the death count isn't high enough. Since it is pretty normal fro America to wait until so many are dead first to have cause for concern.

(sorry still a bit pissed off)

[snellemin]

No allergies. I love good food and don't like paying for garbage.

[JAILBIRD]

I know what you are dealing with. My wife was diagnosed with Coeliac disease a few months ago. Coeliac disease is basically an alergy to gluten which is in just about everything. We barely go out to eat anymore because of the possibility of her having a reaction. I myself have an allergy to shellfish. My allergy isn't so bad because it's pretty easy to identify.

-JB

[Arct1k]

HFCS is actually more expensive to make than real sugar! Its just the tax break to corn farmers that makes it cheaper...

We avoid the stuff at home 100% but difficult when you are eating out...

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by snellemin

I feel you on this subject.

Originally Posted by snellemin

No allergies. I love good food and don't like paying for garbage.

Originally Posted by Arct1k

HFCS is actually more expensive to make than real sugar! Its just the tax break to corn farmers that makes it cheaper...

We avoid the stuff at home 100% but difficult when you are eating out...

I can't stand corn syrup sweetener, it ruins the flavor. I pay 3-4 times the price for real Dr Pepper made with sugar and only drink Coke from Mexico.

I like real meat and refuse vegetable protein.

There is nothing good for you about heavily processed foods like this.

The corn subsidy deal irritates me because it not only serves for the corn syrup garbage but also ethanol. The problem with ethanol is that newer studies are showing it to be worse for humans to breath than the fumes from carbon based fuels. It is also extremely hard on your engine.

I like natural foods, home grown veggies and freshly shot deer!

[PedeBasher]

I feel your pain reno. I am allergic to corn and milk, both huge staples in the American diet. I am forced to drink soy milk, which I dont think is a bad thing, because I know it is filled with protein and if you squeeze your nose hard enough, you dont taste a thing! I also have terrible issues with eating out. Basically everything gives me explosive dio. I can only really eat simple things like subs from sub shops. Anything else, Chinese, Mexican and even certain Italian kills my stomach.

[reno911]

Originally Posted by PedeBasher

I feel your pain reno. I am allergic to corn and milk, both huge staples in the American diet. I am forced to drink soy milk, which I dont think is a bad thing, because I know it is filled with protein and if you squeeze your nose hard enough, you dont taste a thing! I also have terrible issues with eating out. Basically everything gives me explosive dio. I can only really eat simple things like subs from sub shops. Anything else, Chinese, Mexican and even certain Italian kills my stomach.

I feel you on this one. I am retarded when it comes to food I find a new allergy every day. Than my wife has UC, so she is 90% lactose intolerant, that and spicy, greasy, etc. doesn't work for her. At this point I wish I could just grow my own freaking food, including meats.

We try to shop local produce, and buy a lot of veggies and whole meats i.e. whole chickens beef segments. We actually found a very reasonable butcher in town and have been purchasing beef from him lately. Nice to see the cow that your meat comes from. Mostly eat lean cuts and simple veggies. Still trying to find a healthy diet for the two of us that doesn't kill us. It is just so freaking hard to do all of this being an American.

Any international folk want to step in? How about you European folks, boy I would love to get my hands on some rabbit. Supposed to be ridiculously good. So as I here from a friend who studied in Germany.

[PBO]

Originally Posted by reno911

Any international folk want to step in?

My family eats as much fresh fruit & veg as possible. This for us is sourced from wholsale markets & is better quality & lasts longer than supermarket & to a lesser extent shop bought produce

Lean meats or cuts are the preference however the kids enjoy suasages although we buy the lean variety. Fresh seafood as well as processed (like smoked salmon or tinned tuna) seafood is common also. Kangaroo is nice & lean & is eaten blue

Most everything on my plate has chilli & garlic incorporated into it, same with my daughter, my wife likes vinegar & citrus, my son likes plain food

No food allergies in our house that we're aware of

[PBO]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

I like natural foods, home grown veggies and freshly shot deer!

Mmmm...venison

[scarletboa]

Originally Posted by PBO

Mmmm...venison

that's the exact same thing that popped in my mind when i read that post. elk is good too.

[BrianG]

Is there some kind of medicine you can take that would help your body cope with the soy? Something like Lactaid for those with Lactose Intolerance?