Novak Brushless Conversion

[mwry13]

I give it a good 2 years before brushless 1/8 catches on... but from the enthusiasm i got at the Kyosho race... i could be wrong.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by mwry13

I give it a good 2 years before brushless 1/8 catches on... but from the enthusiasm i got at the Kyosho race... i could be wrong.

What happened at the Kyosho race?

[hemi123]

i would have to say yes it will be a hit if they keep the price down. plus its always nice to get everything you need in a all in one kit. i would say that this kit is good for the guy who wants an electric conversion but just isn't to sure of what to get are were to go. plus some people just like the bolt right in kits that don't need you to drill holes in the chassis or find a place to mount a battery.
i wont get ride of the setup i have for the novak hell no mainly because i don't like the dual battery setup. i really have to say that there motor wont be as good as the neu or the frigos.but i do hope that they update there motor an speed controller there both out dated.
i dont think that novak can offer what mgm an neu can just because they would have the price to high for there intended market.

[mwry13]

Originally Posted by Patrick

What happened at the Kyosho race?

i talked to at least a good 20 people who were interested in my car. The most popular question was how expensive was it to do this to a car... and i just told them its pre close to if you were building a comp. nitro rig... with the exception that i virtually no day to day costs like fuel, cluch shoes, etc etc

Nitro:
1. 450 ish for motor / pipe combo
2. 110 a piece for servos
3. anywhere from 50 to 90 bucks a reciever depending on what ya got
4. 30 bucks for a reciever pack
5. and usually (in my experience) about 40-50 bucks a week in matenence costs I.E cluch shoes, bearings, fuel, air filters

450+110+50+30+40= 680

Electric
1. around 200ish for a nice motor
2. 120 for a speed control (not sure what the MMM or tekin R1-MT will cost but a definate must imo)
3. about 220 for a pack ( 4s setup ) (ide go with at least 2 packs so about 440)
4. 110 for a servo
5. 20 for a Castle BEC (so awsome)

200+120+440+110+20= 890

a 200 dollar spread would be made up in about 2 months of racing a nitro rig... and for me its worth it

Wish i could of made something happen, i was in the expert C with about 4 min to go with a 30 second lead on second. I was about to bumb and bam when i came off a triple it started cogging really bad... i found out later my ESC poped out of the case and was flopping around the car for who knows how long... i broke a small piece off the board and that ended my day ^_^

thats the jest of what went on at the kyosho race

[jhautz]

I picked nitro will always be better.... If I have to choose between a Novak BL system with a center slipper clutch (no center diff) and 2 battery packs sitting way out on the mud gaurds or a nitro.... I guess Ill take the nitro.

Now a properly set up 1/8 electric.... thats the way of the future.

I think the novak conversion looks so bad I'm almost afraid it will ruin the good name of 1/8 brushless. First timers will try it thinking its "real" brushless and ditch it and never look back.

[nl12]

Originally Posted by gixxer

I think we would all love to see that. However it will probably still be awhile before we see that.

I bet it will be much sooner than you think

[mwry13]

I hope so too... Big guys behind the company like Brent Thelkie and Ryan Lutz were interested in the car... Hopefully there enthusiasm will push a experamental car ^_^

[nativepaul]

I went for team Tyco too, I don't have a Tyco but none of the options fit, i do believe that the future is electric, but I don't think it will be because of Novak, RCMonster started the brushless revolution ages ago.

It may be a hit, anything publicised well enough will have buyers.

I won't be buying one to replace my setup. if they gave me one I'd try it for sure, and probably run till it broke then go back to my current setup.

I wouldn't even look at one if I had a MGM/Neu.

[GO-RIDE.com]

It seems Novak's first attempt at their HV system wasn't so great. However, if they put the effort into their second attempt that they have into their 10th scale race equipment, it will be very good.

I run my crt.5 on a Novak GTB esc and 6.5 velocity motor and it does not run hot with a calculated top speed of 40mph. I run up to the equivalent of 10min mains and get very little heat. I don't have a temp gun, but I can leave my finger on the motor with no discomfort (no heat sink) and the esc does not get above warm (stock fan).

[SpEEdyBL]

The HV4.5 system seems fine to me in my 8ight. It's far better than my mm/fiegao 9L and 8xl setups, which I couldn't stop from overheating. The novak is faster too and doesn't overheat very easily. The only thing I like about the novak conversion is that it wraps around the stator of the motor for the best possible heat transfer. Other than that, it's not versatile at all since you have to run novak motors, and you are forced to place the battery in awkward positions. In the end I chose tyco, which was my first rc car and had no issues whatsoever!

Novak brushless system will not be a hit because you have to use a novak motor and i know that most if us would rather use a nue motor.

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

Didn't know what to vote for, these conversion aren't going to be that great that there will be classes for 1/8 buggies popping up everywhere. Maybe if you could use another motor apart from the Novak it would be a alright conversion but really if it is the battery tray that makes it popular than the RCPD kits have a much better chance of getting 1/8 class popular than the Novak kits

[glassdoctor]

Originally Posted by fromdaboz707

Novak brushless system will not be a hit because you have to use a novak motor and i know that most if us would rather use a nue motor.

Or any of a number of other motors

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

The Novak kits are now in stock in Australian stores and on ebay. If Novak can keep up with the demand of these kits then must say, well done Novak. Sure the layout and the fast that you can only use novak motors is a downside but if it gets alot more people and it will into 1/8 brushless then it is a success. Most people look at getting into it and think it is to dear to go brushless and kits aint that easy to get especially if you don't have the internet. The Novak kits are like $90 and then the HV system at $250 im sure alot more 1/8 bl buggies will be at tracks which is what we want. I have heard of people waiting 3+ months to get their kits from RCPD and the kits from RCM and RCPD ain't at many hobby shops and Novak's will be everywhere which may make this class more popular even if we do run circles around them with the Neu motors

[nativepaul]

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If it is any good it may get electric 1/8th classes set up and encourage others, if however it is slower than nitro and prone to overheating, thousands of people will see it and think that even with BL/LiPo technology electric 1/8th isn't viable, the classes either wont materialize or will be plagued by problems and many that are considering going electric will decide not to, thinking that if the might of novac cant get it right, what chance do they have using parts from smaller company's like RC Monster, castle, mgm and Neu.

It has the potential to be very good for electric 1/8th, or very bad for it, I sure hope the new 540 size HV series is up to the task.