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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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Novak Brushless Conversion -
12.04.2007, 10:00 PM
Quick Poll...
Do you think Novaks brushless conversion will be a hit?
Will you sacrifice your setup that you have now for a pre - made Novak conversion?
Will novaks system be up to snuff with systems like MGM + Neu that are already out there?
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12.05.2007, 12:09 AM
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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12.05.2007, 01:00 AM
I would say "Yes, Electric is the way of the future", but choosing that in the poll would be saying that I think it will be because of Novak's kit, which I don't. So I didn't chose any of the options. I have a dual battery setup at the moment, but I put the motor in the center over the rear drive shaft to keep the batteries closer to the center. My next layout will be single battery, because I think that's probably the way to go. I don't like how far out the batteries sit in the novak kit.
Last edited by Patrick; 12.05.2007 at 01:05 AM.
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12.05.2007, 02:39 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if they are a hit. The current ones sell quite well despite being slow (6.5) or unreliable (4.5), and not being able to properly push anything more than a light E-Maxx (both systems).
Sacrafice my setup? LOL no thanks. I love my Lehners...and I'll shall run them forever!
Umm, that remains to be seen. Its actually rather impressive to actually have gotten so much power out of a 380 motor, and to create that much power at such high RPM (it goes totally against the standard profile of an electric motor). If they were to make a true 540 motor that behaved very much like an HV motor but could take like 6S, it'd be a BEAST of a system if you ask me.
BL Revo: CF G2R, LMT1940/7, 6S FP 30C Lipos, MMM, Hitec 5955TG
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RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
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12.06.2007, 12:35 AM
I agree, i dont think Novaks system will be the revolution... but its definatly a push in the right direction. There will always be flaws in the conversions of cars from nitro to electric because there simply not designed for that. The weight distribution will always be a slightly off. But i must say im pretty jelous of novaks slipper cluctch setup and saddle style battery trays...
Im just glad big companys like novak are realizing the significance to brushless for bigger cars (ie 1/8 scale buggys/ truggys and even monster trucks.)
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12.06.2007, 12:42 AM
Unless nitro engines and ICE's in general become much more efficient very soon then there is no stopping the electric revolution! It wont be limited to R/C, either.
Will Novak start the revolution with thier kit? Probably not.
Last edited by What's_nitro?; 12.06.2007 at 12:43 AM.
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TEAM FUSION
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12.06.2007, 01:46 AM
Come on... there's got to be more than 3 of us that run for team Tyco?????
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Check out my huge box!
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12.06.2007, 01:57 AM
SQUEAK!
Sorry, always wanted to start a post that way.
Hopefully Novak's never HV system can combine the strengths of the old hv (good startup and matched performance) and cure the weaknesses (you know what they are). If they can produce a 6s sytem with a decent size (540+) motor I am sure it will be a hit. Plus having some off the shelf conversion setups will only help out the conversion portion of the hobby. More competition means better prices, etc.
I personally prefer the sensorless motors, my aveox/quark setups are very smooth and powerful. Even the low cost MM can be a very nice performer with the right motors.
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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12.06.2007, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lincpimp
SQUEAK!
Sorry, always wanted to start a post that way.
Hopefully Novak's never HV system can combine the strengths of the old hv (good startup and matched performance) and cure the weaknesses (you know what they are). If they can produce a 6s sytem with a decent size (540+) motor I am sure it will be a hit. Plus having some off the shelf conversion setups will only help out the conversion portion of the hobby. More competition means better prices, etc.
I personally prefer the sensorless motors, my aveox/quark setups are very smooth and powerful. Even the low cost MM can be a very nice performer with the right motors.
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I totally agree. While the Novak won't be the thing that starts the "revolution" it's another nice step to more mainstream acceptance and better products from everyone. I personally feel that the MMM or the Tekin setups are going to be the best bang for the buck.
On another note, I would really like to see a 1:8 brushless truggy that didn't start life as a nitro. One that was built completely around a brushless/lipo system. Chassis, drivetrain, everything. I know . . .
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12.06.2007, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by glassdoctor
Come on... there's got to be more than 3 of us that run for team Tyco?????
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Tyco got my vote!
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Originally Posted by mwry13
But i must say im pretty jelous of novaks slipper cluctch setup and saddle style battery trays...
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Why?!? It appears to be nothing more than a Ofna Dominator center slipper. My JT T-Maxx truggy had one and it handled like $hit because of it. There horrible as far as handling goes. Thats why Mike only concentrates on center diffs and center diff/slipper and not center slippers...
Last edited by squeeforever; 12.06.2007 at 06:54 PM.
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12.06.2007, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sower
On another note, I would really like to see a 1:8 brushless truggy that didn't start life as a nitro. One that was built completely around a brushless/lipo system. Chassis, drivetrain, everything. I know . . . 
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A while back, the guy who operated Cold Fusion Racing (maker of the original Rustler/Stampede steel diff gear and Lexan chassis for the Rustler/Stampede) set out to create a 1/8 buggy chassis that would hold up to 18 cells flat, and it looked pretty sweet. He actually finished and cut the chassis, and mounted it up to the front/rear ends (I think they were Ofna front/rear ends), but that was the last I've seen of that buggy. And, I haven't seen him on any forums in quite some time.
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RC-Monster Mod
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12.06.2007, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MetalMan
A while back, the guy who operated Cold Fusion Racing (maker of the original Rustler/Stampede steel diff gear and Lexan chassis for the Rustler/Stampede) set out to create a 1/8 buggy chassis that would hold up to 18 cells flat, and it looked pretty sweet. He actually finished and cut the chassis, and mounted it up to the front/rear ends (I think they were Ofna front/rear ends), but that was the last I've seen of that buggy. And, I haven't seen him on any forums in quite some time.
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The Bomb-Proof Products LSP...LSP front/rear ends with a completely custom chassis. Thats about the only think of aside from a few custom conversions like Jaspers. Granted, the BPP LSP didn't go into production...
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12.06.2007, 07:52 PM
Yep, that's another one (don't know why I didn't think about it). Then there's also Mike's chassis for the CRT.5.
Seems that all chassis designed purely for electric power don't do so well in production... So far Mike's chassis is defying that, and I'm sure it will continue to.
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12.06.2007, 08:28 PM
If only Tamiya made more 1/10 4wd truggies and buggies and independant suspension 4x4s, that would be ideal. Heck, they only ever made electric vehicles in the past, but they were all aimed at 10 yearold kids like me when I started the hobby with a Madbull. Shame....
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12.06.2007, 09:09 PM
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On another note, I would really like to see a 1:8 brushless truggy that didn't start life as a nitro. One that was built completely around a brushless/lipo system. Chassis, drivetrain, everything. I know . . . 
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I think we would all love to see that. However it will probably still be awhile before we see that.
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