best truggy?

[tallyram]

Originally Posted by david lamontagn

Just read on an "European" web site that the Xray have a bad tendency to "explode diffs"
Don't know if it's only on the old TQ model or the new EC have the same problems, but ....... this make to "re-think" my choice.

there WAS a bad batch of diff gears floating around, but when thay released the new batch i didn't hear any more about it. i have not broken a single item on my XT8 yet, not even during 50mph crashes at the oval track. i don't think there is a "best" truggy. all of the high end trucks have their pros and cons. everything coms with some sort of compomise. pick the one you want and make it the best that you can.

I'am not able to make a choice between a truggy or a buggy and between Mugen or X-Ray.

[squeeforever]

For me, it would be Mugen buggy.

it's my first choice

[dadnjesse]

Originally Posted by squeeforever

Granted you start with a LSP-R and go brushless, there is a ST-R arm convertion that basically changes the way the truck drives. It consist of HB buggy towers, ST-R arms and driveshafts, ST-R c-hubs, Mugen tie rods, the factory LSP knuckles, different springs, pistons, and swaybars. That right there eliminates alot of the usual mods like converting to 17mm hubs (ST-R shafts are 17mm, so no need to convert anything with the ST-R setup). That in combination with a few of the usual hopups like CF rear brace, HB CNC buggy front brace or two if you have room, and a few other things like the HB GTX heavy duty diff cases and doubled up ackerman plates. Thats mostly it.

Does any one have a link to this ST-R conversion

[hemi123]

i would have to say the 8ight T all the way. the parts like the a arms or just over built they are super thick. the hinge pins are 4 or 5 mills thick. the shock shafts are 4 mills thick. the standed for shock shafts are 3 mills but now you see more brands going with 3.5 mills. i think the losi just drives better. plus parts for losi are way easy to get i find more hobby shops can get parts for losi then x-ray.

[Sower]

When you say the 8ight-T drives better, can you give more info? Have you tested or owned the XT8 or some of the others?

I've never driven the XT8 or the 8ight-T but have seen many of the 8ight-T's at our track. They're pretty nice, but haven't proven as durable as the CRT from what I've seen at the races. They definietly handle better than the CRT though.

Anyone seen the new ST-RR? Seems like that's another option to throw into the "best" category. Although I don't like how narrow it is when I see the specs.

i've only conversion built and driven the 8-T roller but i have no complaints so far...

track only use and mainly in open practice sessions and in 5-7 min. qualifiers...

i had to tone it down from it's origional 1515 1Y/F [4s-2p] 14 tooth pinion set up...

it was just too hot a set-up for our local [medium size, tight lay-out] track...

went with a 1515 1.5Y/F and NeuEnergy [5s] set-up lowering the peak rpm's by aprox. 5000 and amp draw by 30-40 amps making it easier control and giving us longer run times...

Ron

[Sower]

Thanks for the great info Ron. I'll be going to the Neu lipos too . . . I'll be running a NeuEnergy 6s 3900 in my XT8 this spring. Just ordered it last week. Now if only the CC and Tekin ESC's would hit the market I could get this thing built and provide my own testing feedback!!

Originally Posted by Sower

Now if only the CC and Tekin ESC's would hit the market I could get this thing built and provide my own testing feedback!!

i'm not holding by breath for Castle to get off the pot!

i'm running a MGM 16016 with twin cooling fans and it's doing very well so far...

the fans brought the esc temps down by 25 degrees to the 125 degree range where they level out and hold...

see the avatar pic above...

Ron

[Sower]

Well, the thing I have going for me is time. I planned on building this truck over the winter so I've got a couple months. I feel pretty good about either Castle or Tekin hitting the market by mid February or the start of March.

[hemi123]

well i have driving the mugen an the x-ray truggies an both are really good but i just like the way the losi handles. it just feels more planted an turns a little better but when i tried them that was in nitro. couldn't really say whats better when they go electric i just think the losi cause you can move the battery pack colser to the center of the chassis. i seen the new st-rr but dont know to much about them.

[Sower]

I see. From what I've read - the XT8 is not as good out of the box, but has much more adjustability and when tuned right is insane. Like I said though, I don't have my XT8 running yet.

[rchippie]

All of the major brand truggy's are pretty close to each other in my opinion. My JAMMIN was built according to the book & handels great. Some may have more adjustments but if you dont understand all the adjustments your going to get frustrated with your truggy. If i did't get a SWEET deal on my jammin i personally would go with a MUGEN X5T

Originally Posted by rchippie

All of the major brand truggy's are pretty close to each other in my opinion. My JAMMIN was built according to the book & handels great. Some may have more adjustments but if you dont understand all the adjustments your going to get frustrated with your truggy. If i did't get a SWEET deal on my jammin i personally would go with a MUGEN X5T

+1. All the truggies mentioned are great. The driver is what seperates them. We had a sponsered event at my track this year and a local Jammin CRT took the prize over factory drivers. Converting the truggy changes much of their personality anyway. I would suggest you consider going with what your local hobby shop or track carries the most support for, and how much replacement parts are. This aside, I'd go with an 8T due to the offset diff.