J1A1H XXL Torque Monster Buildup........

i took your advice on the arms as well jah, they're on the way.

[Jahay]

helped you out on your thread... my ideas should help you mount and find the space you need for fitting the fatty 1520 in the carbon chassis.

You knw i had probs fitting the 1520 in my chassis and had to grind a bit off the alloY tvps as it stuck out too much!

[Jahay]

Originally Posted by LiqrSicc

Jah, what gearing are you running and what temps are you getting on that 1520? Trying to figure out if I need to go the 1520 route or just stick to my 1518.

Im running 13/48 and im getting motor temps of 130, esc temps of 120, and lipo temps of 110.

I am considering gearing it up a little more... or just leave it as is for 9s...???

[Jahay]

[align=center]Due to not posting in a while, i thought i would update you lot as to what is going on and what is to come etc...[/align]

I have been running my savage and having a lot of fun with it... The centre diff is holding up and performing nicely with the new 500k oil. and the 40c turnigy lipos are awesome, as well as some nanotechs i have too...

Here is a teaser vid from the last meet i was at...

Youtube Teaser Bash Vid

[align=center]Here is a picture from the day too...

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Anyway... my plans at the moment...

[align=center]As it is winter here... i can no longer wrench outside as it is just tooooo cold... So i have been making a new workspace in my garden...



How i set it up on the inside

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So at the moment... i am still trying to see what i want to do, and get everything built correctly for the XXL Savage...

As the new MMMHV (12s version) is not available yet and i have a feeling it wont be available for the next couple months due to the 8s version being released first... I have decided to tear the truck down COMPLETELY AGAIN and get all the alloy bits re anodised in Orange or Gold (most prob orange)

Also the reason for this rebuild is because i am building a second savage...

I am starting to miss the Standing Back flips, quadrouple back flips of jumps *and the crazy hecticness that a stock length savage flux is known for....

So i have starting piecing a savage together out of all my spare bits, and fell a little short. This is why i am going to take bits off the XXL savage and purchase all new bits for the XXL so it is shiny and sparkly once again and ready for 9s power!!!!!!

Plus it is NO LONGER POSSIBLE to jump the XXL... It is just a little too heavy, and too long, resulting in annoying arm breakages etc... So it will just be a handling, speed machine and the stock flux will be my hardcore basher....

[align=center]So this is where i am at currently....

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I will be keeping this as stock as possible, but will be doing the usual BP upggrades...
I was going to buy some more BP Diffs but i will just take them from the XXL Savage and use HD Diffs in the GH Bulks as frddy from HPISF has been using his old stock HD Diffs in the GH Bulks with Much success as there is no flex... If they fail, i will just change them eventually... But this is one way to save some money in the mean time.

Need some integy rear hubs and i may stick with plastic front hubs on the basher for now... But ill see...

What i am also considering at the moment is a flat base chassi for a savage... It would be awesome for racnig purposes for LCG etc... but i am doing it to make my life easier... as i said this will be a hardcore basher, and things will go wrong..., we all know how hard it is to work on a savage tranny and change a pinion if something goes wrong... so i thought a flat chassis would make things simpler... AND MOST OF ALL... UNIQUE!


This is what the design is like at the moment... Thanks to the offset centre diff, the balance of the truck is perfect bringing the heavy lipos closer to the centre...

These are going to be manufactured for people who are interested by a member here...

The one pictured below is of stock length, but there will be an XL length version available too if im not mistaken... If you are actually interested, PM Me and i will pass a message onto the talent.


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The only difference is that... the servo will be laying down, and a custom mount will be fitted for the ESC to sit above the laying down servo.

What do you think... and comments are welcome!!!

[Gdot]

i see some serious chassis flex there. hope theres a top plate. if you get it strong enough, i predict some big fun is about to happen

nice jump pic by the way

[Jahay]

Gdot, thanks for the input...

Chassis flex? the braces are there to prevent that... and top plate? do you mean for the centre diff??? there definitely will be one for the diff....

Can you descibe a little more pls

[Gdot]

the tvp is so strong because it transfers hits all along the vertical, but the flat plate won't do that. theres not enough vertical members to take the stress, so it flexes all over. i would not want to jump high and mighty with what you have there. a long top chassis plate from front to back and diff top screws would be a major help with that. thats what i mean about top plate. just as an example my e10 has a flat chassis, onroad, and the b10 is the same but buggy version, so they added a flat top plate over the center section front to back, and it's nice and strong. same as my SB academy buggy. and this is going to have more big wheels and stuff than a buggy. just sayin

[thzero]

That is a pretty typical truggy design. Why not just buy a truggy? Trying to race with a Savage, unless its against other MTs specifically, isn't a really great idea. :)

Also, that design is missing the front kick-up. Thats important as it adds caster to the front axles.

Otherwise thats some nice design work! :)

[Jahay]

Because i like my savage :) and thought something different would be kl.

As i said, i wasnt going to race... i wanted a flat chassis like this for ease of maintenance... savage trannys always failing with brushless setup and requires tvps to come off to gain access,etc... I was only going to bash this hard....

The kick up on the front would be carried out... i know it isnt showing on the design... but it has been taken into account...

Gdot have you got any pics of your b10 with the top plate so i can get a better idea as to what you are talking about?

THANKS A LOT!

[thzero]

Ah, obviously I misread it. :)

There are any number of designs with a top plate. Essentially its just a small plate that runs from front to rear. Essentially you could put one that runs from the front bulk head attachment across the center diff, attached to it, and then to the read bulk head attachment. Essentially making it sort of a "twin horizontal plate".

As I said, every truggy on the market is built like that your diagrams, however there is some flex in the chassis; mostly built that way to allow chassis to flex for traction purposes (i.e. racing). I know I've bent a few chassis braces on my RC8T conversion with bashing. So by either adding to, or replacing, the chassis braces that you have you would end with up with a stiffer chassis, theoretically. Stiffer chassis is probably bit better for bashing.

You could also turn up the sides; see the front chassis of the Baja 5B/T. This would strengthen the chassis too without needing the top plate. Would reduce the ease of maintenance somewhat though. Most truggy chassises I've seen do have a slight kickup along the sides of the chassis.

[Jahay]

Cheers for the help bud!!! Some helpful info there... Obviously the existing chassis would need to be widened so the edges can be bent up to increase rigidity... I would prefer to do that, than adding a top plate... Maybe the central braces should be thicker and larger to deal with the flex....

Thanks for the input!!!

[Gdot]

like this one is what i mean:



and heres the SB i have



the idea is the horizontal plate pair, like zero said. stronger than the braces, and maybe easier also

[Jahay]

Thanks for the images... defintiely does look stronger seems like a good idea!!!

Cheers again guys!!!

[Kcaz25]

I like it. I think what have done is great. I like the bracing you have designed a lot. I think the other guys underestimate you and your parts. Go with it.

I truggified my Maxx as you may have noticed. Its one sick basher. I'm sure yours will be as well.

I think this is one of the sickest builds! Great video too.

-Zack

dammm... looks sweet!

Whats with the hyper wheel on the xxl? ;)

I forgot i had on of those SB buggies under my bed! must dig it out... do you bash it?

that bash was great fun josh ;) gotta do it again soon :)