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05.31.2008, 10:55 PM
I have heard a large portion of lipo's often don't make it past their ~150 birthday... they fail for some reason or another. Either by melt down, or puffing up and going bad, whatever. But refining process should be better all the time, quality control, etc... it happens less and less, especially when you have 25C continuous packs, they aren't stressed very hard in the typical R/C car.
If you are aiming for cycle life, A123's will have 1000+ cycles under it's belt, and that is just to the point where they are roughly 80% original capacity. I have run 200+ cycles of my A123 packs, and they still read 2350mah per cell, not bad, considering they are rated for 2300mah!
“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
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05.31.2008, 11:08 PM
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I have heard a large portion of lipo's often don't make it past their ~150 birthday... they fail for some reason or another. Either by melt down, or puffing up and going bad, whatever. But refining process should be better all the time, quality control, etc... it happens less and less, especially when you have 25C continuous packs, they aren't stressed very hard in the typical R/C car.
If you are aiming for cycle life, A123's will have 1000+ cycles under it's belt, and that is just to the point where they are roughly 80% original capacity. I have run 200+ cycles of my A123 packs, and they still read 2350mah per cell, not bad, considering they are rated for 2300mah! 
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Nice, where is the best place to get A123's?
Losi 8ight
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06.01.2008, 01:18 AM
eBay... search for 36v DeWalt packs. You have to dissect the pack to make your own, there are 10 cells in series. One of the easiest way to use one is 5s2p pack, you just cut it in two places, solder in one place and solder wires on, connector, and you are set!
“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
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06.01.2008, 02:29 AM
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eBay... search for 36v DeWalt packs. You have to dissect the pack to make your own, there are 10 cells in series. One of the easiest way to use one is 5s2p pack, you just cut it in two places, solder in one place and solder wires on, connector, and you are set!
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What are you using to charge your a123's?
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Check out my huge box!
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06.01.2008, 02:53 AM
Lipos are only good for 5-10 cycles. After that you must send them to me for proper disposal. I am the only person currently alive on earth who has been trained to do this properly. Please PM me for my address and contact info. Make sure all lipos are carefully wrapped and sent priority mail with insurance. I provide this service free of charge to all forum members and friends, my motto is safety first!
Please be carful, as using your lipos over 10 cycles will result in your death and possibly maiming/killing a bus load of nuns on their way back from confession. You do not want all of those deaths on your hands. Of the reported 56,897,462 lipo related incidents last month, only one man survived, and he has recently committed suicide due to the unbearable guilt of killing the nuns.
I wish everyone a safe and happy weekend.
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06.01.2008, 02:57 AM
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Lipos are only good for 5-10 cycles. After that you must send them to me for proper disposal. I am the only person currently alive on earth who has been trained to do this properly. Please PM me for my address and contact info. Make sure all lipos are carefully wrapped and sent priority mail with insurance. I provide this service free of charge to all forum members and friends, my motto is safety first!
Please be carful, as using your lipos over 10 cycles will result in your death and possibly maiming/killing a bus load of nuns on their way back from confession. You do not want all of those deaths on your hands. Of the reported 56,897,462 lipo related incidents last month, only one man survived, and he has recently committed suicide due to the unbearable guilt of killing the nuns.
I wish everyone a safe and happy weekend.
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I have a few with more than 10 cycles. How do I safely mail them?
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Check out my huge box!
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06.01.2008, 03:12 AM
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I have a few with more than 10 cycles. How do I safely mail them?
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It is very easy. The USPS priority packaging is very safe to use. If you wrap the lipo in bubble wrap, the combination of the plasic and air, coupled with the specially treaded carbdoard of the priority box acutally create a small time paradox. The lipo is then tricked into beliving that time has stopped, thus it is unaware of the transport time, and thus will not spontaneously turn into white hot plasma. I have a specially made building to house these lipos, that was actually designed and constructed by Thomas Edison, the forefather of lithium battery technology. The actual working of the building are very difficult to descibe, needless to say it will keep all hobbyists and passing nuns in busses 100% safe.
You are treading on very thin ice, young man. Just yesterday, the entire continent of antarctica was destroyed due to an improperly maintained cell phone battery. Luckily the NCFTINTLAIMLPB (national center for the immediate notification to lincpimp about improperly maintained lithium polymer batteries) contacted me before Canada was lost too (not that anyone would notice that). The risk is real, and dangerous. Trust no one...
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06.01.2008, 03:10 PM
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What are you using to charge your a123's?
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I use a BK PRECISION programmable switching power supply (LINK)
But now I found a much better one for this, 4.5 times more power, and cheaper. Tanic packs has it HERE. I am going to get one for myself soon.
With that thing, you could charge a 1p pack (up to 50v!) in less than 8 minutes. A 2p pack in roughly 15 mins... too bad there is no esc that can handle 50v (a good car controller anyways), as you could have over 30 mins of runtime with only 8 mins charging time.
Yes, they can handle being charged this fast, A123 even demoed a 6 min charge themselves!
“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
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06.01.2008, 05:39 PM
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But now I found a much better one for this, 4.5 times more power, and cheaper. Tanic packs has it HERE. I am going to get one for myself soon...
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That link isn't working for some reason. Takes me to a login page. I assume it's the 50v 20A PS?
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06.01.2008, 03:50 PM
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Nice, where is the best place to get A123's?
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Not to pimp myself, but I have 24 new a123 cells for sale if you're looking for some.
PM for price.
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