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02.04.2009, 02:43 PM
Teknorc: I was curious what effect, if any, that the long shank pinions have on motor bearings? During operation, doesn't the flexing/twisting of the chassis put stress on the motor bearings (front especially) from the spur/pinion pressing together?
BTW: I'm not trying to slam the product, just was curious about your thoughts on this...
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02.05.2009, 04:01 AM
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Teknorc: I was curious what effect, if any, that the long shank pinions have on motor bearings? During operation, doesn't the flexing/twisting of the chassis put stress on the motor bearings (front especially) from the spur/pinion pressing together?
BTW: I'm not trying to slam the product, just was curious about your thoughts on this...
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Good point. I've suggested Tekno in another thread to have Clutch-Free version of theire conversions, using standard mod 1 pinion instead of long shank for customers to choose from, but not very likely to be accepted.
So far Tekno is the only one insists using of a clutch among all those available 1/8 conversion kits, RCM, Novak, CC, RCdesign produts, Losi, AE, and new Hongnor.
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02.05.2009, 03:21 PM
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Teknorc: I was curious what effect, if any, that the long shank pinions have on motor bearings? During operation, doesn't the flexing/twisting of the chassis put stress on the motor bearings (front especially) from the spur/pinion pressing together?
BTW: I'm not trying to slam the product, just was curious about your thoughts on this...
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Brian, thanks for your questions. No negative effects have been seen at all. This is due to the bracing around the gear mesh area thats included in the Tekno kits. This keeps the twisting/flexing confined to only specific areas of the chassis (kinda like a tuned flex Losi chassis).
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I figured you had that base covered......and I have been holding off on more motor purchases because I was hoping for square can versions of the 1512 and 1509. Which and when are they going to be available? The square 1515 in my 8t has been awesome. It's been worth the price.
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No official plans as of yet. But be on the look out, I spy something new on the horizon...
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Are there any plans of making blue spacers and longer screws for the revo motor mount? This is something I have seen other member do, to allow them to get away from the long shank pinions. It would be nice to have parts that were colored the same as the mount, it would be something I would be interested in. This would allow me to use the same pinions that I use for my erevo. If not, I will send in for the new three clutch system with thinner spring.
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Sorry, but the long shank pinion are the only option for direct drive. Reason is because of offering the clutch option and this requires more room. I encourage you to try the new clutch. We have been getting very good results.
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Good point. I've suggested Tekno in another thread to have Clutch-Free version of theire conversions, using standard mod 1 pinion instead of long shank for customers to choose from, but not very likely to be accepted.
So far Tekno is the only one insists using of a clutch among all those available 1/8 conversion kits, RCM, Novak, CC, RCdesign produts, Losi, AE, and new Hongnor.
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Thanks for your support!
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Tekno RC Conversion Kits on all
MMM, MGM, Xcelorin ESC's
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02.05.2009, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by himalaya
Good point. I've suggested Tekno in another thread to have Clutch-Free version of theire conversions, using standard mod 1 pinion instead of long shank for customers to choose from, but not very likely to be accepted.
So far Tekno is the only one insists using of a clutch among all those available 1/8 conversion kits, RCM, Novak, CC, RCdesign produts, Losi, AE, and new Hongnor.
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All of our conversions can be clutch-free :). We definitely aren't insisting that you use it. We won't be offering a direct to diff style mount though, go with RC-Monster for direct to diff style. The way our motor mount still ensures no flex at the mesh point while fully supporting the motor and providing extra cooling. The long shanks provide the easiest way for people who prefer direct drive to still be able to use mechanical brakes. We are seeing more and more people do this as the mechanical brake debate plays out. Having all of the options available on one platform was our highest priority. We haven't seen any issues with people running the long shanks.
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02.05.2009, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianG
Teknorc: I was curious what effect, if any, that the long shank pinions have on motor bearings? During operation, doesn't the flexing/twisting of the chassis put stress on the motor bearings (front especially) from the spur/pinion pressing together?
BTW: I'm not trying to slam the product, just was curious about your thoughts on this...
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Hi Brian,
There are some locals who use the long shanks in buggies (RC8, Losi) and truggies, (Losi, Mugen). I always ask them how everything is running and inspect their cars every time I see them out there. So far, so good. No noticeable or abnormal wear on the gears and the motors are still smooth and quiet. They are running Losi, Castle, and Neu motors. The one guy with the RC8 races in expert buggy here and has been finishing on the podium the last few races with some SoCal competition. He's about to switch over to the new 3-shoe clutch though. That will be a neat experiment for us to watch. His friend switched and put him at the top of the sportsman buggy A-Main. I mention this because the clutch setups are slightly heavier and sit farther out than the pinions and we haven't seen anything out of the ordinary as far as wear with them either.
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