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08.13.2009, 03:07 PM

JThiessen - There are supposedly ~780 million cars in the world, and what you posted states more NOx pollution than 800 million cars. But then again there are more than 15 container ships in the world, so either one of them is off... or it could just be that the ships have increased in size THAT much over the last 9 years.


Lutach - I know! There were more electrics on the road than gasoline powered at the turn of the 20th century. The baker electric car had a range of 100+ miles and a top speed of 25mph. I too can't even imagine what kind of battery, or more likely exotic power source we would have if electric was the dominating way.

It was all about the Rothschild s, J.P. Morgan, and other powerful families/figures that drastically influenced the course of automotive development (and they were the money changers as well, still controlling from behind the curtain today), as they had all this oil, and nothing to use it in, until gasoline cars were made more convenient than before, as they would have to get out of the car and crank it, not to mention preheating the engine with a fire.

Everything is bull$#!T, seriously, it's all bull$#!T.... almost every sector, every industry, everything is based on a lie.


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08.13.2009, 03:14 PM

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Lutach - I know! There were more electrics on the road than gasoline powered at the turn of the 20th century. The baker electric car had a range of 100+ miles and a top speed of 25mph. I too can't even imagine what kind of battery, or more likely exotic power source we would have if electric was the dominating way.

It was all about the Rothschild s, J.P. Morgan, and other powerful families/figures that drastically influenced the course of automotive development (and they were the money changers as well, still controlling from behind the curtain today), as they had all this oil, and nothing to use it in, until gasoline cars were made more convenient than before, as they would have to get out of the car and crank it, not to mention preheating the engine with a fire.

Everything is bull$#!T, seriously, it's all bull$#!T.... almost every sector, every industry, everything is based on a lie.
You nailed it. A lot of things now are either just to get attention and most important, a lot of money. All of the big corp. companies don't give a flying F. It's sad, but it's the truth.
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You nailed it. A lot of things now are either just to get attention and most important, a lot of money. All of the big corp. companies don't give a flying F. It's sad, but it's the truth.
Another BS move was GM buying out all the commuter rails then ripping them out. Then they get Congress to use our tax dollars to subsidize road building, where rail lines have to build and maintain their own tracks. Totally unfair adv, skewing the system.

I wonder what we could do if we invested more equally in high speed rail across the country, and took a large number of trucks off the road, freeing up the highways quite a bit. Rail is far more efficient than road travel, and does not pose the traffic hazards cranked out semi drivers do trying to make their delivery times. You need trucks on local routes, but driving a truck from LA to STL @ 60mph (not including rest stops, traffic and sleeping) burning up 10X the amt of fuel seems fraking stupid.

Could replace a lot of air travel as well. They are not as fast as a plane, but you waste so much time at an airport (also taxpayer subsidized), it may balance out quite a bit. The east coast is crowded, but in the midwest and west, you can lay tracks all over the place. 250-300mph on land can get you from NYC to LA pretty fast.

I wonder how much we could reduce FF use just by doing things more sensibly.
   
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