New castle brusless system?

[slimthelineman]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

That's just people who believe the propaganda offered by other companies -- sensored/sensorless only makes a difference for the first 1/100th of a second during startup. Once the motor is turning, it makes no difference AT ALL.

The truth hurts for some people I guess. Just because it's not a specific "color" or tagged as a "racing" speedo people will believe what they hear. I tend to believe things I can see and feel but racers are fickle and tend to think Equipment makes them better drivers. Props on all the great new products. Can't wait for the new motors.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

That's just people who believe the propaganda offered by other companies -- sensored/sensorless only makes a difference for the first 1/100th of a second during startup. Once the motor is turning, it makes no difference AT ALL.

That's true... somewhat. I've found slow speed control and braking smoother with a sensored setup. To be fair, sensorless algorithms have come a LONG way in just a couple years, and the difference between sensored/sensorless is all but nonexistent for racing, speed runs, etc. But for very low speed control (like when I turn the EPA to 10% when my 2 year old wants to play), that extra smoothness makes quite a difference.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by BrianG

That's true... somewhat. I've found slow speed control and braking smoother with a sensored setup. To be fair, sensorless algorithms have come a LONG way in just a couple years, and the difference between sensored/sensorless is all but nonexistent for racing, speed runs, etc. But for very low speed control (like when I turn the EPA to 10% when my 2 year old wants to play), that extra smoothness makes quite a difference.

I can believe that -- if you are starting and stopping a LOT at very low power, the sensored system will be smoother (but not by much --)

But -- does anyone actually run that way? (Unless, of course, a 2 year old is driving. )

[slimthelineman]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

I can believe that -- if you are starting and stopping a LOT at very low power, the sensored system will be smoother (but not by much --)

But -- does anyone actually run that way? (Unless, of course, a 2 year old is driving. )

Well the "racers" must if they all swear by the sensored setups. Sorry for being so blunt but you can tell I'm sick of people coming to me at the track and telling me how much faster and better I could be with a sensored setup when they really have no idea.

[johnrobholmes]

#raises hand# You know what I want Patrick.

[Arct1k]

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes

#raises hand# You know what I want Patrick.

Dual packaged brushed/brushless sensored 6s capable ESC with 6V (adjustable) switching BEC from CCBEC (not the MMPro BEC) with a single brains board which will allow independent and linked throttle between the two outputs in the package of a single MMPro 1 Cell...

Close?

PS Any success drawing up the dual brushed idea?

[nitrostarter]

Originally Posted by Arct1k

Dual packaged brushed/brushless sensored 6s capable ESC with 6V (adjustable) switching BEC from CCBEC (not the MMPro BEC) with a single brains board which will allow independent and linked throttle between the two outputs in the package of a single MMPro 1 Cell...

Close?

PS Any success drawing up the dual brushed idea?

You crawler guys are too picky...

[killermmn]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

I can believe that -- if you are starting and stopping a LOT at very low power, the sensored system will be smoother (but not by much --)

But -- does anyone actually run that way? (Unless, of course, a 2 year old is driving. )

me,i like the slow speed control!!

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

I can believe that -- if you are starting and stopping a LOT at very low power, the sensored system will be smoother (but not by much --)

But -- does anyone actually run that way? (Unless, of course, a 2 year old is driving. )

lol, I suppose the majority of people don't go 2mph on purpose. My girl is not quite 2 and she loves playing with my trucks. Unfortunately, only my Losi Ten-T is the only vehicle (has a Tekin buggy system - sorry Patrick ) I can set to go this slow and have anything close to good startup.

I do use a MMM on a Tekin 1700kv buggy motor on 5s in an Xray truggy to pull my girl around in her wagon (we go for 4-5 mile walks) and startup could be a bit smoother. It's not bad if a goose it, but she doesn't appreciate having to wear a neck brace.

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes

#raises hand# You know what I want Patrick.

x1000000000000000000000000000

and can we make it red too?

But seriously, you would be the king of the crawler world if you did Patrick.

[phatmonk]

Are the motors made in the same factory as the 1500 series motors?

I'll buy soon a new sensorless esc for my scrt-10 with 1409 3600kv. Which esc should I get? new sidewinder sct or old reliable MM ? I want to know especially which one can handle more current.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by phatmonk

Are the motors made in the same factory as the 1500 series motors?

Yes. And they rock.

The new 1406 and 1410 motors are very very efficient, are built with the same techniques as the 15xx series motors, same bearings, same rotor design (but slightly smaller diameter rotor) and are sized to be ROAR modified legal.

Thanx!

Patrick

[nitrostarter]

Originally Posted by alport

I'll buy soon a new sensorless esc for my scrt-10 with 1409 3600kv. Which esc should I get? new sidewinder sct or old reliable MM ? I want to know especially which one can handle more current.

I would suggest the MMP. Its a very robust esc.

[crazyjr]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

Yes. And they rock.

The new 1406 and 1410 motors are very very efficient, are built with the same techniques as the 15xx series motors, same bearings, same rotor design (but slightly smaller diameter rotor) and are sized to be ROAR modified legal.

Thanx!

Patrick

Hey Patrick, Got a few questions. Are these going to be 550 or 540 based? What are the KV of each motor? and will they be available seperate of any esc? I already have a mamba max and plan to go MMpro and MMM later, do not see a need for a sidewinder. Thanks for any info you can provide