Rummy's Savage E-5SC

[NickRummy]

First some questions.

I want to run a 1717. I've been reading up about the Alza mounts for them. What do you guys think about using these mounts with the TCS TVPs? Will I have to do a lot of hacking on the TVPs? I plan to run a Mamba XL on 6S with the 1717. I have a 1520 right now but bigger is better right?

Got a Savage roller a week or so ago with the TCS plates already. It's basically just a Savage 25. I'm not upgrading anything yet. I'll break stuff first. haha



As of last night I had the battery boxes on and have a flux trans ready to drop in (with plastic spur). I also have the motor mounts hogged out for the 1520. Like I said, still thinking about just going to the 1717 depending on what you guys think.



This showed up yesterday.



Easier to pull all the parts I need and part out the rest than buying the parts individually. Heck the body alone is $210 and not in stock....

Working on assembling wheels and side body mounts so that'll let me mock up the body mounts and get an idea of ride height. I'm planning on using SS front shocks all around and have the HPI 24mm savage adapters. Probably have to go to XL stubs to get the right track width?

Feel free to give input. Good to be back on the board. Been a while since I've had an electric rig worth posting!

Rummy out.

[rckcrwlr]

Originally Posted by NickRummy

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Where did you get the Moen Faucets????

[NickRummy]

Originally Posted by rckcrwlr

Where did you get the Moen Faucets????

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[thzero]

Yes you will. I'm not even sure that the 1717 will fit length-wise with the TCS TVPs. The 1520 should be able to be mounted with a bit of grinding for to account for the length over the motor over the stock.

You can always grind out the Flux mounts to fit either the 1520 or 1717. I've got the GCM mounts for a 1520 as I was planning on mounting this up, but ended up putting it in my truggy.

Originally Posted by NickRummy

I want to run a 1717. I've been reading up about the Alza mounts for them. What do you guys think about using these mounts with the TCS TVPs? I have a 1520 right now but bigger is better right? .

FYI, I'd just go ahead and get the bulletproof Flux diffs, you *are* going to break the standard diffs very quickly.

[NickRummy]

The 1717 is actually shorter than the 1520 according to Castle's site. Not by much, 3/16" or so. I already ground the mounts for the 1520, you can see it sitting in the second picture in the OP. I'm just thinking about going to the 1717 now instead of spending time on the 1520.

[thzero]

I would just grind the mounts for the 1717 then.

Originally Posted by NickRummy

The 1717 is actually shorter than the 1520 according to Castle's site. Not by much, 3/16" or so. I already ground the mounts for the 1520, you can see it sitting in the second picture in the OP. I'm just thinking about going to the 1717 now instead of spending time on the 1520.

[NickRummy]

Is there even enough room? I took off quite a bit for the 1520 and the 1717 is a lot larger in diameter.

How do you like the 1520 in your setup? Isn't that what you're running? What all did you have to mod on your TVPs to do it?

[thzero]

Actually I ran the 1800kv in the 5T as I put the 1600kv in my truggy. I was running the 1800 on 6S, thought it ran cooler than the standard 2200kv. I basically had to grind out the rear of the motor cutout area of the TVP (see attachment, the area where the red circle is).

Originally Posted by NickRummy

How do you like the 1520 in your setup? Isn't that what you're running? What all did you have to mod on your TVPs to do it?

[Arct1k]

Please do it with the 1717 - As this is what I want to do...

[JasonB]

I think the 1520 is more than enough to push that truck around. A 1717 would get less run time, wear out the truck faster due to excessive torque, heat up the batts quicker due to larger current draw, etc. Other than looking cool, it's a loose loose with the bigger motor. Just my opinion.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by JasonB

I think the 1520 is more than enough to push that truck around. A 1717 would get less run time, wear out the truck faster due to excessive torque, heat up the batts quicker due to larger current draw, etc. Other than looking cool, it's a loose loose with the bigger motor. Just my opinion.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

A 1717 would be the logical choice as it produces more torque. It has a larger diameter stator so it will be able to procue the needed torque.

I have run both the 1520 and the 1717 and the 1717 is the clear choice winner for a heavier vehicle, and a longer wheelbase vehicle.

I ran both with a MMM and a zippy 5kmah 40c lipo. No heat issues on the esc or lipo with either but you could feel the torque difference with the 1717 and it ran cooler...

Nothing against the 1520 but it is a good 1/8 mt motor. Get much bigger and you need a larger motor. I would like to see a 1725 motor, around 1400kv for 8s use with the MMmxl.

But this is just my opinion too, sure I may have days of runtime with hundreds of brushless setups but what do I know...

[JasonB]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

You have no idea what you are talking about.

A 1717 would be the logical choice as it produces more torque. It has a larger diameter stator so it will be able to procue the needed torque.

I have run both the 1520 and the 1717 and the 1717 is the clear choice winner for a heavier vehicle, and a longer wheelbase vehicle.

I ran both with a MMM and a zippy 5kmah 40c lipo. No heat issues on the esc or lipo with either but you could feel the torque difference with the 1717 and it ran cooler...

Nothing against the 1520 but it is a good 1/8 mt motor. Get much bigger and you need a larger motor. I would like to see a 1725 motor, around 1400kv for 8s use with the MMmxl.

But this is just my opinion too, sure I may have days of runtime with hundreds of brushless setups but what do I know...

Interesting. Well, I have never run a 1717, so as linc suggested, I can't speak from experience on that motor, only based on everything I've read on other related forum posts, which is as I stated earlier, it is an amp hog. I do run a 1520, and can confirm that it is a torque monster, quite efficient, And total overkill for my standard length Savage - wouldn't have it any other way. Best of luck on your project, hope it goes well . . . Looking great so far!

[NickRummy]

I am picking up a 1717 tommorrow! I think I am just going to make my own clamp mounts. I have some 5/16"' aluminum plate leftover from another project that should work.

I can see the point in a larger motor wearing out a truck faster but the other points? A bigger motor with the same or equivalent kv rating is going to work a lot easier than a similar smaller motor.

I got the 5sc wheels on tonight and set the body on because i couldn't help myself. Internet is out at home so posting from my phone. Will have pics posted in the morning after I get to work.

[NickRummy]

Ok photo time. 5SC wheels and tires are mounted up on stock savage axles with the hpi 24mm adapters. Front track width is 16.25" and the rear is 16.75". It's not THAT far off really.



Flux tranny mounted with the motor plate in. Going to start drawing the 1717 clamps today. Pretty much just going to copy the Alza mounts.





I couldn't help but throw the 5SC body on it......









I'm picking up the 1717 today at lunch and I'm hoping I'll have time to assemble the side rails from the 5SC kit so I can see how they'll attach to the TCS plates.

[NickRummy]