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Mac v pc - 03.07.2010, 05:35 PM

I have not tried a Mac yet myself, because of the prices. I have had the same desktop PC for over 15 years now and it still does the job for me. I have had issues with it over the years, but repairs are reasonable for the most part. I had one hard drive die on me, but I had a RAID system set up so the second HD was just fine, and the rest were virus issues of one kind or another. If you have a good PC guy to rely on they can fix just about anything. More often then not failures are ususally due to opening up stuff that one should know not to. One of our sons had to use my PC for a school project last week and got a virus from going into U-tube videos. We had taken his laptop, I-touch, and PSP away from him for having two "F" grades. So I let him use mine for an hour or so. I took it into my friends shop and he had it back to me the next day without any problems. It cost me $25 and I have never lost any data. We also have 5 laptops in our family and another desktop that is about 7 years old. Sure we have had issues from time to time, but overall if you take care of your computer needs as far as protection they will last as long as you want them to.

I use Symantic anti virus, and a registry optomizer to keep things clean. As long as you do updates periodically and schedule scans once a week or so everything stays operational. Its really about keeping good habits and staying out of places that everyone knows are full of bad crap that can mess your system up. There are problems with everything at one time or another. I do have to admit that some of the Mac based computers are pretty impressive if you want to pay that much for a PC, but up to now I just could not justiry it.


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I have not tried a Mac yet myself, because of the prices. I have had the same desktop PC for over 15 years now and it still does the job for me. I have had issues with it over the years, but repairs are reasonable for the most part. I had one hard drive die on me, but I had a RAID system set up so the second HD was just fine, and the rest were virus issues of one kind or another. If you have a good PC guy to rely on they can fix just about anything. More often then not failures are ususally due to opening up stuff that one should know not to. One of our sons had to use my PC for a school project last week and got a virus from going into U-tube videos. We had taken his laptop, I-touch, and PSP away from him for having two "F" grades. So I let him use mine for an hour or so. I took it into my friends shop and he had it back to me the next day without any problems. It cost me $25 and I have never lost any data.

I use Symantic anti virus, and a registry optomizer to keep things clean. As long as you do updates periodically and schedule scans once a week or so everything stays operational. Its really about keeping good habits and staying out of places that everyone knows are full of bad crap that can mess your system up. There are problems with everything at one time or another. I do have to admit that some of the Mac based computers are pretty impressive if you want to pay that much for a PC, but up to now I just could not justiry it.
15yrs?! Jesus Jerry! Btw, I have a '04 Asus PC FS. 1.6mhz, 512mb ram, will run windows7. Exec condit. Classic Taiwanese silicon. They don't make em like this anymore! (actually they do, they just cost more)
   
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15yrs?! Jesus Jerry! Btw, I have a '04 Asus PC FS. 1.6mhz, 512mb ram, will run windows7. Exec condit. Classic Taiwanese silicon. They don't make em like this anymore! (actually they do, they just cost more)
Yea what can I say I just hate wasting money on buying something new when I have something that works perfectly fine. Actually I am now looking at moving up to something more state of the art for 2010 because of my job, but I am not willing to spend more than $1000. My 14 year old son has already done his research for updating the desktop I have now in order to make it a gamer for his needs. I think it will be a great way for him to learn a few things along the way. I am not a gamer, but I do love speed and good audio & video preformance. There are a fair amount of pretty savy machines out there in the $600 range. Here is what I am planning for.

A 2.6 to 3.2 Ghz quad core(preferably Intel).
At least 8 Gigs up to 16gigs of Ramm DDR3 would be good.
A fairly good video card (gamer quality is a plus).
A motherboard that has plenty of USB ports and leaves room for expasion
A 5.1 or better sound card.
A mini tower that does not weigh 100lbs loaded up.
A 650W power supply or better.
A teribite of hard drive space.
A desent(fast) DVD burner.

And something that looks up to par style wise. Personally I still like HP because of their customer support and because I can get just about all of this for approx $600 through the base exhange. Most of the electronics we have are HP. We have Dell, Toshiba, Sony, as well, but THeir customer support sucks. I hate propietory crap. The 15 year old PC I use now is a custom built machine that I came up with myself while learning the PC technical side back in 1994. It is a simple Athalon 1.6ghz porcessor. Nothing fancy in todays market, but it was pretty good back in 1994. It still runs along just fine, but something is wrong with the motherboard and only one of the DDR slots is working right now, which really limits my memory speed(1 gig). So yes it is time to move up. Luckily for me I have a few friends to lean on who really know the PC world inside and out. I do my research and call on them for advice, and yes assistance when needed. Still it is not hard to learn new things on your own. I started by buying one of those "Build your own super computer" books and went from there.


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03.14.2010, 10:42 PM

Apple's battery policies are jacked up. Why can't they just just make a battery door, like every other electronic device made?

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It's no secret that the Cupertino-based developer has inched the totality of its product lines toward non-replaceable batteries. So what happens, then, when your iPhone or Macbook Pro battery loses its ability to hold much of a charge? What about the iPad? Will you have to run back to your local Apple store to pick up a replacement?

Apple just announced the terms of the deal for the iPad and, all jokes aside, it's just like the iPhone's battery replacement service... but bigger!
Apple's warranties provide for varying measures of support depending on the product lines--iPhone owners get a free battery replacement if their devices' capacities drop below 50 percent within the first year of ownership--the company offers its own battery replacement service for affected products.

Provided your iPad hasn't gone through some catastrophic amount of damage--"as result of an accident, liquid contact, disassembly, unauthorized service or unauthorized modifications," suggests Apple--then you'll be eligible to take advantage of the company's battery replacement service.

But what does that entail? First, you'll have to shell out $99 (plus $6.95 for shipping and whatever your local tax happens to be) for the opportunity for a brand-new device. And I phrase that as I do for a very specific reason.

When you send your iPad off to Apple, you aren't just getting your same ol' iPad back in the mail after one week or thereabouts. Opting for the company's battery replacement service will basically put you on the list for a refurbished iPad--although the exterior case of the device will be brand-new, the underlying product will be one that's gone through Apple's fix-it procedures in some capacity. Naturally, any data you've kept on your old iPad device will go the way of the dinosaur: You'll want to back up all your settings and information prior to asking Apple for a new battery.
Gotta pay $99 bucks to get a new batt in someone else's broken equipment? :/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361358,00.asp


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03.14.2010, 11:20 PM

Well if you happen to have a apple store nearby I'm pretty sure that they can and will replace the battery. However I'm not sure about the rest of you but I have no problem receiving a refurbished product. Often a refurbished one is better than original as any known issues with the original have been fixed (ex. a bad run of a certain chip or some other component it would be replaced) and they generally have a warranty on them. If I brought my iphone in for a battery replacement after 11 months and the it has all kinds of scratches all over it and I get a new one that I simply have to plug into my computer and all my if will be on it in 5 minutes I have no problem with that. In my experience Apple has stood behind there products much the same as Castle stands behind there's. I had a set of earphones that started sounding crackly, brought them in and they gave me a new set. After 10-11 months and many drops to the ground my original iphone's ear speaker wasn't loud enough for me to hear on anymore, brought it into the store and walked out 10 minutes later with a brand new one. I still say I didn't have any problems with my apple products because they where immediately taken care of free of charge. The battery on the matchbooks is replaceable, they sell them right in the store, sure they aren't as easy to replace as on other laptops but for something that doesn't have to be done very often it's not a big deal to have to take out a few screws.

I have had my Macbook pro for just over a week now, no complaints. Yes there are somethings I have to figure out as there are differences between a Mac and a PC but it's not hard to figure them out and if you can't then call apple and they will tell you!


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03.14.2010, 11:39 PM

Hmm, my cousins MacBook (Not pro I don't think), has a detachable battery... and battery door, turn the coin slot, and out it pops..

I've heard MANY success stories with Apple and their replacements, I gave a iPod Data Cable to a friend last week, he brought it in and gave me a new one (the old one stopped working all of a sudden, it was over 4 years old, easily).

He's done the same with my iPod headphones (that I got second hand!), needless to say, their customer service is definitely not A+, it's OVER A+.
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Hmmm weird about the macbook pro, IDK what they are talking about.

Looking at the apple site, they do say this about the iphone (and ipad), which seems to correlate to the story in Pc Mag:


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What is the AppleCare Advance Replacement Service for iPhone?
The AppleCare Advance Replacement Service (ARS) for iPhone is a service option that is designed to reduce the amount of time you are without an iPhone. Normally, when requesting mail-in service, you must first send your iPhone to Apple before receiving a replacement. With ARS, Apple will ship you a replacement iPhone as soon as you request it, then you send your original phone to Apple. Your replacement iPhone will be new or refurbished.
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How long will it take to receive my replacement iPhone?
Your replacement iPhone will arrive approximately two to three business days after you request it from Apple.
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To avoid incurring a late fee, you must return your iPhone so that Apple receives it within 10 days of shipping the replacement iPhone to you (“Return Period”). For information on your replacement phone shipment status, visit the Repair Status website.
Also says it costs $86 bucks. This ARS service is an extra $30. Damn.

IDK, but it would creep me out a bit to get someone else's phone/max-ipad. What if the guy used it just sitting on the crapper & browsing adult sites? Eww...
Not enough bleach in the world to get that clean.
Rather just order a cheap batt myself and just pop it in. No worries about losing data or anything either.
   
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Hmmm weird about the macbook pro, IDK what they are talking about.

Looking at the apple site, they do say this about the iphone (and ipad), which seems to correlate to the story in Pc Mag:




Also says it costs $86 bucks. This ARS service is an extra $30. Damn.

IDK, but it would creep me out a bit to get someone else's phone/max-ipad. What if the guy used it just sitting on the crapper & browsing adult sites? Eww...
Not enough bleach in the world to get that clean.
Rather just order a cheap batt myself and just pop it in. No worries about losing data or anything either.
They replace the exterior, but the internals are replaced.
Tis all.

But I know what you mean.
God forbid if you get Harold's or Linc's stuff.. Oh lordy.
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All in all - 03.15.2010, 12:58 AM

All in all this whole idea of proprietary crap sucks if you ask me. I love the fact that most things use rechargable batteries like AA's & AAA's so you can just have a load of energizer batteries in the charger ready to go. Having products that use only the manufacturers brand is a bunch of Sh#$^ if you ask me. They are one of the richest companies in the world and still they are worried about after market products taking money out of their pockets. Life is too short to have to deal with that kind of stuff. We already have enough to worry about these days without more censorship type stuff.

I think that Mac stuff is pretty cool, but I am not willing to pay extra just to be a part of their club.


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They replace the exterior, but the internals are replaced.
Tis all.

But I know what you mean.
God forbid if you get Harold's or Linc's stuff.. Oh lordy.
"Oh sweet, got my iphone back!!!"
[opens box]

*sniff sniff*

"What is that smell? Its... musky.."


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"Oh sweet, got my iphone back!!!"
[opens box]

*sniff sniff*

"What is that smell? Its... musky.."


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Yea that is from the last guy using it to practice his newest musical intrument skills playing taps with his but hole. Then you get all kissy face with your wife or girlfriend with that same mic. NICE!!! Exchanging BL motors or ESC's does not even come close in comparison. Good luck with that.


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