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Torque, torque, torque!!!!! - 01.07.2010, 04:23 PM

Well, I went out on Sunday to have a little fun with new motor... Still geared 18/51 and running it on polyquest packs (5s), the truck was a handful... torque, torque, torque, torque and more torque!!!
When front wheels finally settled to the ground, it ran beautifully... ballooning was the major issue for the day. I think most of the oil in the center diff has leaked out, therefore allowing majority off the torque
to be quickly transferred the front tyres... this made them balloon wildly (they're not taped)... so much in fact they came off the rims (even after re-gluing them on site)... the tyres didn't last very long with
the abuse they suffered and after two packs, the tyres had little grip left on them... there was still quite a bit of torque going to the rears... enough to have the truck doing wheel stands whenever I squeezed
the throttle aggressively... it made it a little challenging to get the truck off the line in drag races with my friend's G4... I lost two races because the truck could not keep all fours on the asphalt...


The temps were real good... the motor saw high 120s to 130°F and the esc peaked at 122°F... all in all... the truck was a whole lot of fun...













An example of what the front tyres suffered on Sunday



I'm still messing with the orientation options for the esc... the fan is now facing downward... didn't do any test runs yet to find out if it made any difference with cooling...








The motor wires will be shortened as soon as I'm settle with the layout

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01.07.2010, 04:46 PM

You document so well that I don't have any questions! LOL

Stay off the Asphalt!!

I have recently installed my UE knukleheads, they are great! I will still use my FLMs occassionally because they will allow the truck to be more slammed due to the additional shock mounts. I'm telling you this because I'm thinking of trying a wing. FLM's has a wing mount mount holes built in. Where other than Ebay can I find a Knucklehead wing mount? Would you feel safe landing on the wing? Do you ever jump?

Why don't you use a shorter screw on the shocks and take off the unused standoff? That is what I've done. Its just unnessisary weight.

EDIT scratch that first thing I said about no questions. But the excellent documentation statement still stands. LOL now what weight oil do you have in the CD?

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You document so well that I don't have any questions! LOL

Stay off the Asphalt!!

I have recently installed my UE knukleheads, they are great! I will still use my FLMs occassionally because they will allow the truck to be more slammed due to the additional shock mounts. I'm telling you this because I'm thinking of trying a wing. FLM's has a wing mount mount holes built in. Where other than Ebay can I find a Knucklehead wing mount? Would you feel safe landing on the wing? Do you ever jump?

Why don't you use a shorter screw on the shocks and take off the unused standoff? That is what I've done. Its just unnessisary weight.

EDIT scratch that first thing I said about no questions. But the excellent documentation statement still stands. LOL now what weight oil do you have in the CD?

But I love the asphalt!!! I have only seen the UE wing stay mounts on ebay... not sure who else would be stocking those now. I haven't really jumped the truck yet...
but i have landed the truck on the wing several times with no issues... the standoffs are ok, I don't think they're upsetting the weight of the truck that much... I'm using
50k wt in the CD... it's going to be out of commission pretty soon... so, it won't be an issue any longer.

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01.07.2010, 09:48 PM

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But I love the asphalt!!! I have only seen the UE wing stay mounts on ebay... not sure who else would be stocking those now. I haven't really jumped the truck yet...
but i have landed the truck on the wing several times with no issues... the standoffs are ok, I don't think they're upsetting the weight of the truck that much... I'm using
50k wt in the CD... it's going to be out of commission pretty soon... so, it won't be an issue any longer.

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Get a touring car!

Yeah IDK why I asked but I'm not even sure who originally made them. Who was it?

I will get a wing before its all over. The mounts that fit the VBS dont fit Knuckleheads right?

But if you've got shorter screws...

I'm sorry about the leaking, unloading and what not. How did you like the action when it wasn't leaked?
   
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01.07.2010, 11:54 PM

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Get a touring car!

Yeah IDK why I asked but I'm not even sure who originally made them. Who was it?

I will get a wing before its all over. The mounts that fit the VBS dont fit Knuckleheads right?

But if you've got shorter screws...

I'm sorry about the leaking, unloading and what not. How did you like the action when it wasn't leaked?
Hey Zack... I'm actually thinking about a TC3 or TC4... I believe the mounts were actually made by UE (anyone else reading this that may have a difference in opinion, please jump in)...
VBS and Knuckleheads are two completely different designs and thus will require their own mounts... I did a quick search on ebay and only found the VBS versions... send a mail to
Robin at UE and ask him if it was really his design, and if it is, does he still have them in stock.

The CD would transfer a little more to the rears when it was full of oil... turn ins would be a little tighter under power... the aluminum i ordered for my new motor/CD mount is now in the
island, so I will have the Spider in there soon to fix the problem.

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01.08.2010, 01:02 AM

You could run some of those premounted foam tires like Rivermaxx used on his speedrun Maxx. They're cheaper than another RC... and you could still jump and bash

No ballooning is a beautiful thing!
   
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You could run some of those premounted foam tires like Rivermaxx used on his speedrun Maxx. They're cheaper than another RC... and you could still jump and bash

No ballooning is a beautiful thing!

That sounds like a plan... where can get these?
   
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That sounds like a plan... where can get these?
River had those tires special made to fit some rims he modded himself... Cost a purty penny if I recall...


So that's what all the fuss was about...
   
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The mount was actually made by a forum member on the UE site.. Ever seen them referred to as DD wing mounts? Thats short for Diemaker Dave... People have been makin their own to fit though... Some careful measuring and the actual tower and mount u wanna use in hand and u should be ok... His mount mainly worked with the MBX5 and 5T wing mounts but some others might fit the pattern...

Right!!! there you go... thanks vader!! I remember now... I did come across 'DD wing-mounts' when I was first researching them... is he still producing these?


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River had those tires special made to fit some rims he modded himself... Cost a purty penny if I recall...
Oh... I think I'll stick with the pro-line stuff then... I'll tape the tyres before mounting them when I get replacements.

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[QUOTE=ANGRY-ALIEN;342889]Right!!! there you go... thanks vader!! I remember now... I did come across 'DD wing-mounts' when I was first researching them... is he still producing these?



As far as I know he hasnt produced any in years... Your best bet is eBay...
Contact a seller by the name of Billytrucks123... He has a LOT of parts and some he doesnt list to kinda hold on to them... Just do a search for Supermaxx parts and he sells the ones with a green background... Good luck in your search but if you have the fab skills I would just make one out of either 6061 or 7075 aluminum... Then you can make it exactly like you want...


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The mount was actually made by a forum member on the UE site.. Ever seen them referred to as DD wing mounts? Thats short for Diemaker Dave... People have been makin their own to fit though... Some careful measuring and the actual tower and mount u wanna use in hand and u should be ok... His mount mainly worked with the MBX5 and 5T wing mounts but some others might fit the pattern...


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Yeah vader is right. I had forgotten they weren't off-the-shelf items... duh disregard

But do tape! That will also prevent them coming off the rims.
   
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Yeah vader is right. I had forgotten they weren't off-the-shelf items... duh disregard

But do tape! That will also prevent them coming off the rims.
Yep... I'll definitely do it.
   
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I was looking at getting some foam tires too. http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23752 ATS makes some for ~$50. I spoke with Kershaw Designs and ATS had some sort of a problem with shipping. I havent contacted ATS yet but info@atsmodel.com is their email if you are interested.
   
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I was looking at getting some foam tires too. http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23752 ATS makes some for ~$50. I spoke with Kershaw Designs and ATS had some sort of a problem with shipping. I havent contacted ATS yet but info@atsmodel.com is their email if you are interested.
Zeen... thanks man... that's another option I'll look into.
   
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