Smaller onroad project

[BrianG]

I love my Ultra GTP, but it's a big large to play in the garage/basement/small work parking lot. So, I thought a 10th scale would be better space-wise.

Been looking at a few models, but want one that is tough. I don't care if it's belt or shaft drive as long as everything holds up. Not trying for insane speeds, but it will have plenty of torque for drifts when I want.

So, what's the most durable model in 10th scale? Diffs have to have metal gears. Preferably planetary or spider gears (not ball). Since I'll probably go through bodies like candy, I want something that'll be easy to find bodies for. Also want something fairly easy to work on - sucks having to take half the car apart to get to one thing.

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[webman405]

um, pretty sure he's looking for touring cars, not stadium trucks. btw it's vxl, not vlx.

[Arct1k]

Tc3-4-5?

[BrianG]

Actually, I already have a CRT.5. I'm looking more of something like Team Associated TC3 or TC4, Losi drift sedan, Trx 4Tec, Ofna Hyper GPX4/CD3/LD3 - stuff like that. Just want the most durable model with ease of maintenance.

[Takedown]

Go with the N4-tec if you want durability. Its a brick...

[BrianG]

I was actually looking at a nitro 4-tec several days ago. A guy at my LHS got a used one and I was looking it over. The whole upper deck would need to be rebuilt, but not a bad little car from what I could see. And the belt was off to the side giving plenty of room in the middle for stuff. But, I figured I'd get more opinions before I go hunting for one.

Dude I am sorry, I was on my 1st cup of coffe when I read that this morning. My bad.

I have been looking for a nice TC4 also but they are kinda hard to find nice ones for the cheap. In fact I was shopping the TC5 simply b/c the part support would be easier and they seem to come way down in price. I want a 100+ mph sedan too.

As far as maitanance I dunno, but for speed they are soooo capable of over 100 with MM and 4s!! I wanna but its going to have to wait till after the 8ight.

[lincpimp]

Hey Brian, if you want a nitro 4tec I have one with a bunch of parts that you can have cheap...

I would say that it will make a decent conversion. I also llike the tamiya tt01 chassis. Thise are super strong, even though they have plastic diffs with metal internals. I had one do 75mph repeatedly with no wear to the drivetrain.

[Big House]

I like my TA-04. Carbon chassis, took a curb head on @ 45mph or so and live to race on.

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Hey Brian, if you want a nitro 4tec I have one with a bunch of parts that you can have cheap...

I would say that it will make a decent conversion. I also llike the tamiya tt01 chassis. Thise are super strong, even though they have plastic diffs with metal internals. I had one do 75mph repeatedly with no wear to the drivetrain.

I might hit you up on that 4tec. I had one Tamiya and it seems their support life-cycle for parts is pretty limited. Traxxas carries stuff forever it seems.

I'm still trying to decide what I want more: a MT/truggy or a smaller onroad. Probably after the holidays when finances settle down before I know either way. Mike has sucked my wallet dry the last month - but it's a good thing.

[bdebde]

You may have to convert a nitro to get metal gear diffs with internal gears as most electrics use ball diffs. I think the nitro rs4 family has decent diffs. I have an electric RS4 (ball diffs) that easily does 60mph and is very durable. But if you want to run in a garage or basement, you may want to go to smaller yet (1/18th scale).

[BrianG]

Converting a nitro is fine with me. Actually, I expected it.

Garage/basement is just for playing when it is too cold outside. But mostly for small parking lots and such. I still haven't seen the full speed of my GTP because I run out of room. I had a Tamitay EVO III, which is 10th scale IIRC, and it worked pretty good in tight places, but parts are REALLY hard to come by so I gave it to my brother with a gentle brushed motor/LRP ESC (was on my son's Pede).

Yeah, I don't like ball diffs. I'd much rather have a planetary or spider diff that is tunable with oil.

I took a look at the 4tec at traxxas and noticed they use similar driveshafts as Slash/Pede/Rustler and found them to twist easily. So, whatever I get has to have steel outdrives and CVDs as well.

So, the list of requirements are:

> Spider or planetary steel oil-tunable diffs
> Steel driveshaft outdrives and CVDs
> Easy to work on any one part without tearing half the vehicle apart.
> Sized to fit typical 10th scale bodies

At this rate, I might as well just get another CRT.5 and create a chassis and shock towers specific for on-road use since it has the driveline I am happy with. Actually, that's not a bad idea really. Hmmm. I wonder if the CRT.5 arms are too wide... How wide are 10th scale bodies?

[bdebde]

touring car bodies are generally 190 or 200 mm