How could I have forgotten the MBX5? I've only seen one run, as they aren't too popular around here (not much local support). I didn't get to drive it, but the guy that had it was just a average driver and it looked good. The friend of mine that I put the 8ight together for, got rid of the 8ight to get an MBX5-T, but lost interest, so I didn't get a chance to mess with one...yet.