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10.21.2007, 08:16 PM
Well the price sounds good, I am sure that it will have to be closer to 350 once it hits the shelf. Cost to the dealer is around 100 for the mm so the mmm will probably be at or over 150. This is just for the esc. With the motors the mm combo is about 175 dealer cost. Add in the fact that the mmm is coming this a neu motor?! and that the mm motor is some sort of feigao derivative(hacker clone) price should be between 300 and 350. Keep in mind that neu motors are costly due to lower production requirements, due to lower overall demand. Couple this MMM system coming out close to the new Emaxx release and it could be a potention sales success. I am sure that castle has worked a deal with neu on a bulk purchase, or at least continued quantity purchases to keep the price down. Coupled with the 150 or so cost for the esc, motor costs would be around 125 to 150. Adding in markup puts it around the 300 to 350 mark.
I also wonder is CC will sell the MMM motors seperately? I realy can't see them doing this, around 150 to 175 for a neu motor? That would cut into neu's sales quite a bit!
The arrival of the CC MMM would hopefully spur the mfgs to make some dedicated 1/8 scale electric rcs, or conversion kits at least. And hopefully a larger, or multi cell version of a trakpower or similar cased lipo will also be offered. This would ensure that the "unwashed masses" could put a decent electric system together at the LHS without needing special parts or fabrication. It would most likely not compare to scratch built sytems, but it is certainly a start, and will lower prices on all of the related components too!
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10.21.2007, 08:31 PM
Also read just now that CC have licensed the design of the motor from neu. So it looks like some chineses company will be pumping out neu clones?!
Hope that they can produce a similar quality motor. I guess that will allow the price to stay around the 300 dollar mark. I am sure that the motor will be better than a feigao xl, which is good cause I have had decent success with the feigao motors and have not wanted to pay 3-4 times more for a neu or lehner. I know that they are better, but some sort of in-between motor would be nice and CC may provide this soon.
CC always seem to put out a high quality product, the delays in testing are justified by this. They may be over-ambitious with their marketing, but we all know that they are coming out with something new, and have been waiting for a while! At least they have good new product awareness!
We all have beaten up on the poor MM with all kinds of motor and vehicle combo that are a little past its design specs! I actually have a MM from their first run, bought it about 2 weeks after it was relaesed. It has been in my xxx-cr the entire time and has never given me any trouble at all. So imagine how good the MMM will be when it is designed to be used in 1/8 scale!
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10.21.2007, 08:43 PM
If this is really coming out in February I hope mike is getting ready to ramp up production on his motor mounts.
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10.21.2007, 09:03 PM
I asked patrick on rcgroups about other motors. this was his response.
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Right now the plan is to offer:
38mm length motor:
1Y (2200 RPM / V)
2.5D (1750 RPM / V)
1.5Y (1550 RPM / V)
We will also be producing longer motors in the future for even higher power applications.
Patrick
Kyosho SC, tekin rs, D3 17.5
Hyper 9e, mmp,tekin 1900kv
Associated sc10 4x4, novak 4.5
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10.21.2007, 09:08 PM
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LMFAO
Thats the funniest thing I've ever heard.
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Also pretty amusing LOL.
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http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...30#post2284530
Patrick as in Patrick del Castillo, President Castle Creations, he started posting on RCCA early in Aug.
I realize they have a credibility prob being so late with this one and others before, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume this is what he intends will happen.
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10.21.2007, 09:08 PM
You should of asked him when they would be out. I would love the 2.5d.
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10.21.2007, 09:15 PM
I did, but am waiting for a response to that one. I also would prefer the 2.5d or 1.5y since I am running 5s and plan to go to 6s.
Kyosho SC, tekin rs, D3 17.5
Hyper 9e, mmp,tekin 1900kv
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10.21.2007, 09:26 PM
Thanks gixxer. It's good to hear they are working on it at least. I may get the controller and a fieago and get the 2.5d motor when they release it later.
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10.21.2007, 09:52 PM
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You should of asked him when they would be out. I would love the 2.5d.
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I have the 1515/2.5d (1700kv) its the schizzle  , I run mine on 5s and NO problems, its finned though.
if you look at everything it will offer:
10 amp programmable switching BEC built in
6s handling
170 const. amp
neu based motor
It seems too good to be true, but if they can do it It will take the RC world for a Loop-de loop
Work because i gotta, play because i wanna
People here hate Nitro, I love it. I start it, run it about 50 ft from me and it dies, I go after it. Perfect exercise
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10.22.2007, 12:39 AM
Is this the MMM motor?
Someone got this pic, I dont think I saw it posted here though, but thats from castle's booth
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10.22.2007, 02:04 AM
I'm wondering the same thing BOR...
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10.22.2007, 02:09 AM
It just looked like a normal smooth can Neu when I saw it at the show.
I can't decide if its more fun
to make it...
or break it...
Silent...But Deadly
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10.22.2007, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gixxer
I asked patrick on rcgroups about other motors. this was his response.
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Right now the plan is to offer:
38mm length motor:
1Y (2200 RPM / V)
2.5D (1750 RPM / V)
1.5Y (1550 RPM / V)
We will also be producing longer motors in the future for even higher power applications.
Patrick
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38 mm long?
That must be like a 1509 neu? I know that the l can feigao motors are about 60mm long. Sounds like a very small motor, or a misprint!
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10.22.2007, 02:29 AM
I think he meant diameter... not length.
I can't decide if its more fun
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10.22.2007, 03:07 AM
thats what I figured too. Didn't want to correct the owner in his own thread. also the kv is off a little compared to what neu has on there site. they have 1700kv 2.5d and 1500kv for the 1.5y
anyways here is a link to patricks responses. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=683583&page=6
Kyosho SC, tekin rs, D3 17.5
Hyper 9e, mmp,tekin 1900kv
Associated sc10 4x4, novak 4.5
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