Info on the MMM from the I-Hobby show

[Sower]

I wonder if they'll have any other KV options?

[gixxer]

patrick posted this when I asked him that on another forum.

Looking like March timeframe for additional motor winds.

Patrick

also the plan is for a 2.5d and 1.5y

[MTBikerTim]

Originally Posted by Dagger Thrasher

Just found out something else interesting about the Castle "Neu" motors. Sounds like they'll actually be superior in terms of construction. This was in reponse to "ChilledoutUK" asking about whether the can endbells will have holes in them like the current Neus:

"Good point! Actually, we are using a fully closed end bell. Another issue we have seen with the standard Neu motor is that the glued end bells have a tendency to come "unglued" in minor crashes, and that the windings are unprotected from long screws. So the Castle version of the motor will have threaded end bells with set screw capture, and will have blind mounting holes (so a user cannot insert a screw too far into the motor and damage the windings.)

One other thing we are changing is that we are using a larger diameter bearing for the front bell, to allow higher side loads (cars tend to be hard on front bearings!)

Patrick"

He also said the following after being asked about whether the normal CMS36 motors will be changed to a Neu-designed motor:

"Doesn't look like we will be using the Neu motor design, HOWEVER, we will be making some significant changes to the Mamba motor in a few months. All of which will make a BETTER motor.

Patrick"

Link:http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...=242626&page=2

Originally Posted by gixxer

patrick posted this when I asked him that on another forum.

Looking like March timeframe for additional motor winds.

Patrick

also the plan is for a 2.5d and 1.5y

Castle Creations

[Sower]

Nice. Although I would think that a 1700kv motor on 6s would be crazy fast - maybe even a little too hot. I would like to see something more like a 1500kv or even 1300kv on 6s.

[waterdog49]

after testing and racing short [qualify'n races in Daytona Beach] with my Losi 8-T with a Neu 1515 1Y/F on 4s-2p...

i've deceided to drop down to a Neu 1515 1.5 Y/F and run it on a single [5s-1p] NeuEnergy 30-60C 5000 mAh pack...

i'll do a battery change pit stop for the longer duration 15 and 20 min. mains...

IMO the 1515 1Y/F on [4s-2p] is more power than needed to be competitive in off road 1/8th scale truggy racing...

bash'n is a different story...

Ron

[Sower]

That's more the direction I think I'll be going too. Although I really like the idea of running even higher voltage - like 6s. Higher voltage, lower amp draw really appeals to me - especially with the temps.

[crazyjr]

Right now, i think they are going for the newbs and getting fast setups together. I got a 2.5d/1515 (1700kv) and its wicked on 5s. I am going to try 6s when i get my MGM 16018 in the truck

[Patrick]

I tried my 1515 2.5D (1700kv) on a 6s 4900mah pack in my maxx.
The quark 125 worked without any issues and temps for every thing were pretty good. I was geared 51/20 with standard ratio diffs (12.5:1 FDR). Old standard size bow ties didn't like it too much.

This MMM sounds like it could be the brushless system a lot of people have been waiting for. Hopefully they can get the quality of the motors close to the real thing.
If they are close to a real neu, can do 6s, have built in switching bec, can be programed with a computer, offer a 2200kv, 1700kv and 1500kv motor and are going to sell the combo for around $300, a $275 novak system won't come close to comparing.

[crazyjr]

Originally Posted by Patrick

I tried my 1515 2.5D (1700kv) on a 6s 4900mah pack in my maxx.
The quark 125 worked without any issues and temps for every thing were pretty good. I was geared 51/20 with standard ratio diffs (12.5:1 FDR). Old standard size bow ties didn't like it too much.

This MMM sounds like it could be the brushless system a lot of people have been waiting for. Hopefully they can get the quality of the motors close to the real thing.
If they are close to a real neu, can do 6s, have built in switching bec, can be programed with a computer, offer a 2200kv, 1700kv and 1500kv motor and are going to sell the combo for around $300, a $275 novak system won't come close to comparing.

I got mine back yesterday, and got it in the G2R today. on 5s its so impressive I don't think i'll try 6s. MGM vs Quark, MGM all the way. It handles the Neu so nice, Castles got a heck of a job running a Neu this good

On the MMM, you got that right bro. We could be looking at the best bang for the buck since, well, the MM

the only problem is waiting for that system to come out. Last year I was called a fool on my emuggy conversion for buying the quark and feiago combo. Someone even went as far as to pull a post from a Castle rep stating that they would release the ESC as that is what most people were begging for. We are still waiting.

I really do hope that it arrives someday. I am planning a new conversion and it would be nice to have.

Castle.... would you take a check to release this bad boy????

[suicideneil]

No one could accuse you of being a fool for buying the MM & feigao- that is the standard BL set up these days last time I checked (unless you take it to the next level with an MGM & Neu). Nice to have you back man.

Yo Neil!

I went with a Quark and Feiago. Im probably going to do another conversion of a mini MGT and I will probably use the same setup. After looking at the draw on the Feiago, and what I wanted to do in terms of lipo, the MM was just not practical. It would be getting way too close for tolerences.

Ive always been around but Ive just had alot going on.

Im looking for my emuggy thread on here so that I can post a video of it moving and also the micro baja versus the muggy. Cannt find it though....

[suicideneil]

True about the MM, and the newest models now use different FETs and are limited to 4s or 12 sub-c cells- any attemot to go over that and you get the 'over-voltage' warning lights. The Quark will be fine though, we are all 100% aware of its heat issues so fixing those as & when they occure is no problem.

Ive had no issues with Quark #2 but Quark #1 fried off of a 3s

[crazyjr]

I asked about the wires coming out of the motor and what they will be, Extened windings or real wires and here was his responce

We are bringing 10ga (1085 strand) wires out of the MMM motors. Not extended motor winding wires.


Patrick