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lincpimp · 01.25.2008, 07:42 PM

Do you have a link to the slipper?

tashpop · 01.25.2008, 10:57 PM

hey man, i can't wait until you get some pics posted. your build sounds killer. i also love the fact that your a houstonian. you should make it a point to make it out to the drag races we do at track 21 west on 1960. i need a monster truck to run my maxx against. i had a long fight for finding tires that'll hold together with high powered high speed monster trucks. in the end, i just had to give up on monster truck tires. i favor truggy tires now. they are lighter and have much less sidewall to stretch when ballooning. i would always loose control of my truck at that sweet spot where my tires would balloon up. with my bl setup, i'm undergeared a little, and when the tires popped up, it was like hitting a nos button and my truck would always go ballistic. at least too much for me to hold. make an account on photobucket or something and get some pics up.

Serum · 01.26.2008, 03:31 AM

Linc;
what slipper do you mean? the standard X slipper uses two slipper pads and a plastic spur, while the upgraded HPI slipper uses a steel spur and one slipper pad;

Jhautz;

what went wrong on your slipper? stripped teeth? melted spur?

jhautz · 03:49 AM

Actually some of both. Mostly stripped teeth. I felt like if I loosened the slipper so I didn't strip the teeth, I would melt the spur and If I tightened the slipper so I didn't melt the spur I stripped the teeth. I just couldn't find a balance that worked consistently. If I run a fairly tight slipper and am very precise with setting the mesh as tight as possible but not allowing binding. I could get it to last a quite a while, but it has to be just right. I mean just right. Even then I would eventually strip the teeth. I thought maybe I had a pinion with poor tooth geometry or something so I bought a new one to replace it but there was no difference I could tell.

But really who knows. It could actually be a good thing that the weak link is so easy to change. I guess it could be diff gears or transmision gears or something. I'm gonna test the new setup with the plastic spur after I get it converted to the FLM chassis just to see if maybe the old setup was a little "off" in the alignment or something that could have caused it, but I dont think so. I think its just alot of power and alot of weight and a plastic gear.

Serum · 01.26.2008, 03:55 AM

that's odd.

With the old school slipper (not the dual setup) i had great succes with the spur/pinion. i dumped at least 50 gp3300 packs through 1 spur, before it started to worry about replacing. I use white-lightening on it, and a 18T pinion though. I can imagine a smaller pinion would cause wear sooner.

What motorplate where you using on yours? flex in that area is eating spurs.

jhautz · 01.26.2008, 04:08 AM

The motor mount was solid. The motor was sitting flat on the stock nitro motor plate and had a motor mount that I made holding it all in place. The motor wasn't moving. (see attached picture, its the best one I had of it and its in pieces now.) I was pretty hard on that poor savage so it might just be me that is the problem.

But if I continue to see this same thing after the chassis and motor mount change I'll try the steel spur. I still have a few of the plastic ones sitting in the parts bin so I might as well use them.

I actually think the old single pad slipper setup might be better. The dual friction pads on the X make the adjustment real touchy IMO. Its either slipping allot or not at all. There really isn't much middle ground. The older single pad style is probably more forgiving on the adjustment.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1906.jpg

Serum · 01.26.2008, 04:12 AM

I'll continue using that. GPM also makes machined delrin spurs.

01.26.2008, 12:29 PM

lincpimp,

Here are the parts you need for the Savage X dual slipper, I ordered from tower.

HPI 86800 X 1
HPI 97042 X 1 (you may have these parts on your existing slipper)
HPI 86802 X 1
HPI 77094 X 1 (that is the 79t spur)
HPI 87243 X 1
HPI 86801 X 1

It sounds like the jury is still out on slipper setups. I'll run the steel setup for now. Since I ordered it already I'll give the dual slipper a try when it comes, if nothing else just to get rid of the noise of the all steel setup.

I just checked my USPS tracking and my parts look like they are going to arrive. I'll be building all day today, so pictures will follow. I built all of the shocks last night and glued the tires.

01.26.2008, 12:31 PM

I got super glue on the tires....... Acetone to take it off?

01.27.2008, 01:48 PM

I need a recommendation on the connectors from the 22418 to the Neu. Should I use the 5.5 hi amp connectors on Mikes site?

jhautz · 01.27.2008, 01:57 PM

Thats all I use and they are great. Never had a problem. I use them on every setuo I have. If you are racing you might consider a direct solder so there is not chance of the connector ever comming loose and shutting you down, but amp wise they are great connectors.

BTW I have only ever had the plug come loose on me one time so its not like its a problem or anything.

09:16 PM

I'm going to try to post some pics. I'll start with one and see how it goes. Its a pic of most of the parts before I started the build.

Okay, that didn't work..... what program do I use to resize my images? There all huge, too big to post it appears.

01.28.2008, 11:15 AM

generalg · 01.28.2008, 11:41 AM

Nice pics BashOn.

Curious for those who have already got your hands on this conversion kit. I'm anxiously awaiting arrival of mine. However what I would like to know is if the front steering setup comes with this conversion? I converted the existing steering setup over to a akerman style setup from a 1/8 buggy like majority of the Savage owners do for improved steering/response.

Will this setup work with this conversion? Or surely I don't have to use the old crappy steering setup the Savage comes with initially?

jhautz · 01.28.2008, 02:05 PM

I would think it would work with no issues. I cant see any reason it wouldnt work.

Do you have a link to this mod or pictures of yours. I'm interested in doing it on mine and seeing it will let me give you a better answer.