MMM availibility date dropped! - Page 7 - RC-Monster Forums

lutach · 01.31.2008, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by captain harlock

I think they did say they're planning to make a HV version of the Mamba Monster Max, right?

Patrick said he would offer a 6S and a 12S controller, but with the delays and all Joe has to shine the light on the 12S controller.

Dagger Thrasher · 01.31.2008, 06:40 PM

If I recall, Patrick said that they *might* do if demand was high enough. That was quite a while back thugh. Bottom line, I guess if we want a HV version we really, really need to make ourselves heard. :-)

Sower · 01.31.2008, 06:44 PM

6s is high enough for me right now - I'm stoked about that. Maybe hiver voltage in the future, but I personally don't see a need for it in my application. 6s will drop my amps and give me the efficiancy I'm after.

I can't wait to see my MMM 1500 setup on 6s - should be awesome!

lutach · 01.31.2008, 06:58 PM

If they made the controller 12S from the get go, people could still use it with 6S and later they would just buy a motor with the right Kv and go with a higher voltage.

BrianG · 01.31.2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach

If they made the controller 12S from the get go, people could still use it with 6S and later they would just buy a motor with the right Kv and go with a higher voltage.

True, however, to keep the $300 price point as the 200A 6s ESC, CC would probably have to make it a 100A 12s ESC. Even then it might be hard to do depending on component and other costs.

jhautz · 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach

If they made the controller 12S from the get go, people could still use it with 6S and later they would just buy a motor with the right Kv and go with a higher voltage.

But then they wouldnt sell you another controller.

lutach · 01.31.2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG

True, however, to keep the $300 price point as the 200A 6s ESC, CC would probably have to make it a 100A 12s ESC. Even then it might be hard to do depending on component and other costs.

Components are not that expensive. I know, I sell electronic components. A controller might cost $50 (Guessing, but it might be less), but the price of a product have to pay for the people working with them and overhead. Look at this controllers: http://www.himodel.com/electric/HiMo...200A-OPTO.html (200A up to 7S lipos) and this one http://lightflightrc.com/HTML/products/SP_100A_ESC.htm (100A up to 7S and only $39.95). They are not fancy controllers, but they might use the same amount of components. I have mentioned a 1/8 scale truggy and buggy chassis I have designed and I have sent the drawings to Mike. I will only use 10S to 12S lipos with them.

Arct1k · 01.31.2008, 09:36 PM

Lets get it and play with it before bashing it :) A whole package for 300 with a nue quality motor is an amazing feat in my book...

Lets cut them some slack eh...

Sammus · 01.31.2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k

Lets get it and play with it before bashing it :) A whole package for 300 with a nue quality motor is an amazing feat in my book...

Lets cut them some slack eh...

Not wanting to be too cynical but just because its designed by Neu doesn't mean its Neu quality - for example, did anyone else have experience with the Duratrax DTX .18 engine in the Nitro Evader series, designed by O.S.? Certainly wasn't anywhere near half the quality of an OS motor...

MTBikerTim · 01.31.2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sammus

Not wanting to be too cynical but just because its designed by Neu doesn't mean its Neu quality - for example, did anyone else have experience with the Duratrax DTX .18 engine in the Nitro Evader series, designed by O.S.? Certainly wasn't anywhere near half the quality of an OS motor...

Castles quality is pretty good too though.

Sammus · 01.31.2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MTBikerTim

Castles quality is pretty good too though.

haha good point

johnrobholmes · 01.31.2008, 11:56 PM

A China made controller will be cheaper than the US made controller for a long time, until the yaun (I think) overtakes the $. Having the dollar lose power in the world economy is strange, but it is happening. I know it will be good for the US economy in the long run though, as it will bring more business into the country.

Sower · 02.01.2008, 11:06 AM

I just can't imagine what kind of KV motor you would put in a 12s system - it would have to be pretty dang low. I'm sure we'll be seeing it in the future though.

lutach · 02.01.2008, 11:52 AM

I have a Neu 1521/1.5Y that can handle 10S and it will spin at around 44000rpm with 12S. The point of a controller that can handle 12S or more is to use less AMPs. It will give you better run times, plus you can use good 2200-2500mAh packs. This is the main reason why I keep asking for it.

Sower · 02.01.2008, 12:25 PM

I see - well, that's awesome. I've always been worried about the higher rpms when you go to the HV stuff. But your logic is exactly why I am going with the 6s in my XT8 so I'm with you there. Reduce the amps and increase the voltage for better efficiency and temp control. I just didn't know how far to take it.