FLM Forward Conversion Build

Very cool, I really have to get pics of mine up on here!

Bye

Well I ran it tonight at a local park. It was dark but the park had a few lights. This truck is awesome!! The forward conversion does a really good job of keeping the nose down. I am running the stock bonz tires and wheels. The spur is a 47t and the pinion is a 19t and the transmission is the 3 speed. The truck was a blast. The Neu 1521 barely got warm. I think there may be plenty of room for more gear. Everything was going great when.......................... one of the wheels went flying off. It was too dark for me to find the 17mm hub. I am hoping that the local hobby shops will have a replacement in the morning.

I need to balance my wheels. They vibrate A LOT at full throttle. The duct tape I used inside of them is holding up great, NO ballooning.

When I got home I went ahead and replaced the 47t steel spur with the Golden Horizons 52t steel spur that came in. The Golden Horizons is a much nicer spur. The stock 47t that comes with the Savage X SS is really skinny. Due to how thin it is I could already see the wear on my hardened pinion. The Golden Horizon spur has much wider gear teeth, and I think it is going to have a much better wear characteristic on the pinion.

I have a variety of pinions coming from Mike. I will have everything up to 25t to play with.

What is the easiest/best way to balance my wheels?

BashOn your my hero!

I wish I was you so bad man! That savage is awesome man!

Make sure theres a vid

[lincpimp]

You can use a prop balncer and clay, or some sort of puty to balnce thewheels. Or get an old hub and bearing and use that to find the heavy area of the wheel.

Originally Posted by jhautz

Serious beast there. It really looks bad a$$ with all that FLM stuff.

Do you have a scale to throw it on? I'm curouis what the weight difference is between that and mine with the plastic arms and bulks.

EDIT: Man that gonna be some serious power thith the 1521 and 6s.

I do need to weigh this thing. Maybe I'll just stand on a scale holding it and then stand on a scale without it.

To update where I'm at:

I've run the truck several times. It is awesome and I hope to get someone who can video it soon. Some of you may have read that I had some problems with my Neu. The can was coming loose from the front end bell. Luckily it is threaded so I have used some blue loctite based on Neu's recommendation and hopefully it will hold. I am also working on getting the pinion set for the best combo of low temps and good top speeds. I thought I was going to be able to put more pinion on it, but now that the ground is totally dry and the truck gets traction the motor temps have increased. It is going to end up around a 19t or 20t. I am also finishing up a plate for the motor mount to sit on so I don't have to use those spacers to get the 1521 to fit. I noticed that the motor mount flexed a bit under throttle and I think it is due to having little support with just the spacers. My battery barrier (to stop the LiPo from hitting the spur) came of and was lost during my last bash so I am making a new one and using Epoxy to secure it to the stock post.

As far as the power goes, this trucks got it. Even with the extended chassis I think I could almost do a full backflip from a standstill. I put a brand new body on this truck and its already ruined after only 3 batteries through it. You really have to be careful with the throttle or the truck ends up on its lid. Even at speed it will flip right over, which is cool I guess but when it flips the truck ends up sliding forever on its top. It destroys the body. I just put a wheelie bar on it to help keep things under control.

That pretty much sums it up for now. I'll get the video I promised soon.

Also, thanks to knotted I ran the automatic setup option on the MGM. This truly helped a lot. I started feeling like I wasn't getting the power I should be. I sent knotted a message and he made some recommendations. If youy have an MGM and you haven't run the automatic setup option do it! It added a bunch of power to my setup.

[generalg]

VIDEO I want some video please!!

[MTBikerTim]

Originally Posted by BashOn

I do need to weigh this thing. Maybe I'll just stand on a scale holding it and then stand on a scale without it.

To update where I'm at:

I've run the truck several times. It is awesome and I hope to get someone who can video it soon. Some of you may have read that I had some problems with my Neu. The can was coming loose from the front end bell. Luckily it is threaded so I have used some blue loctite based on Neu's recommendation and hopefully it will hold. I am also working on getting the pinion set for the best combo of low temps and good top speeds. I thought I was going to be able to put more pinion on it, but now that the ground is totally dry and the truck gets traction the motor temps have increased. It is going to end up around a 19t or 20t. I am also finishing up a plate for the motor mount to sit on so I don't have to use those spacers to get the 1521 to fit. I noticed that the motor mount flexed a bit under throttle and I think it is due to having little support with just the spacers. My battery barrier (to stop the LiPo from hitting the spur) came of and was lost during my last bash so I am making a new one and using Epoxy to secure it to the stock post.

As far as the power goes, this trucks got it. Even with the extended chassis I think I could almost do a full backflip from a standstill. I put a brand new body on this truck and its already ruined after only 3 batteries through it. You really have to be careful with the throttle or the truck ends up on its lid. Even at speed it will flip right over, which is cool I guess but when it flips the truck ends up sliding forever on its top. It destroys the body. I just put a wheelie bar on it to help keep things under control.

That pretty much sums it up for now. I'll get the video I promised soon.

Also, thanks to knotted I ran the automatic setup option on the MGM. This truly helped a lot. I started feeling like I wasn't getting the power I should be. I sent knotted a message and he made some recommendations. If youy have an MGM and you haven't run the automatic setup option do it! It added a bunch of power to my setup.

That sounds fantastic. The savage wheelie bar should help keep your bodies a bit longer. The wheelie bar works really well.

[theJoker]

Originally Posted by BashOn

I do need to weigh this thing. Maybe I'll just stand on a scale holding it and then stand on a scale without it.

To update where I'm at:

I've run the truck several times. It is awesome and I hope to get someone who can video it soon. Some of you may have read that I had some problems with my Neu. The can was coming loose from the front end bell. Luckily it is threaded so I have used some blue loctite based on Neu's recommendation and hopefully it will hold. I am also working on getting the pinion set for the best combo of low temps and good top speeds. I thought I was going to be able to put more pinion on it, but now that the ground is totally dry and the truck gets traction the motor temps have increased. It is going to end up around a 19t or 20t. I am also finishing up a plate for the motor mount to sit on so I don't have to use those spacers to get the 1521 to fit. I noticed that the motor mount flexed a bit under throttle and I think it is due to having little support with just the spacers. My battery barrier (to stop the LiPo from hitting the spur) came of and was lost during my last bash so I am making a new one and using Epoxy to secure it to the stock post.

As far as the power goes, this trucks got it. Even with the extended chassis I think I could almost do a full backflip from a standstill. I put a brand new body on this truck and its already ruined after only 3 batteries through it. You really have to be careful with the throttle or the truck ends up on its lid. Even at speed it will flip right over, which is cool I guess but when it flips the truck ends up sliding forever on its top. It destroys the body. I just put a wheelie bar on it to help keep things under control.

That pretty much sums it up for now. I'll get the video I promised soon.

Also, thanks to knotted I ran the automatic setup option on the MGM. This truly helped a lot. I started feeling like I wasn't getting the power I should be. I sent knotted a message and he made some recommendations. If youy have an MGM and you haven't run the automatic setup option do it! It added a bunch of power to my setup.

How how much run time are you getting and whatcapacity batteries are you using ??

Originally Posted by theJoker

How how much run time are you getting and what capacity batteries are you using ??

I am running a Flightpower 5000mah 25c 6S lipo, the one in Mike's store.

I know this sounds unrealistic and next time I will time it but it has to be 25 to 30 minutes. Even then the MGM Lipo slowdown wasn't engaged. I could tell the top speed was dropping off so I stopped running it. I have only run 1 full pack through it, every other run I stopped long before I had to for whatever reason.

I checked the voltage of the pack when I got home after 45 minutes or so and it was close to 24 volts, so I didn't over discharge it.

I could not believe how long the truck was running, and I was being harsh, constantly stopping and starting. I guess the Neu motors efficiency really helps in this area.

[lincpimp]

Well a 6s 5000 lipo should be roughly equivalent to a 4s 8000 lipo. I can get 25-30 mins out of my trakpower 4s setup (4900mah) with an 8xl, so your runtimes may be longer than you think. Plus higher voltage does cut down on the amp spikes, that hekps too. That 6s pack will most likely last a while too, much less stress on it than a 4s setup.

[theJoker]

Originally Posted by BashOn

I am running a Flightpower 5000mah 25c 6S lipo, the one in Mike's store.

I know this sounds unrealistic and next time I will time it but it has to be 25 to 30 minutes. Even then the MGM Lipo slowdown wasn't engaged. I could tell the top speed was dropping off so I stopped running it. I have only run 1 full pack through it, every other run I stopped long before I had to for whatever reason.

I checked the voltage of the pack when I got home after 45 minutes or so and it was close to 24 volts, so I didn't over discharge it.

I could not believe how long the truck was running, and I was being harsh, constantly stopping and starting. I guess the Neu motors efficiency really helps in this area.

Thanks for the reply!

[MTBikerTim]

That's an impressive setup. After hearing this I am thinking I will change my mind on my setup again. I think I will run 6s lipo as fitting the a123's is going to annoy me.

A few pic that show the new barrier I made using a stock chassis brace and some fiber board. Also check out the heat sink I got from tamjets.com.

A few videos to follow...

Jumping a bit at the local park...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdJCBYswTLs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX4mKfaxelE

[generalg]

Nice heatsink. BUT wow $49 for it!?!?!

Need more video!!!!