MMM availibility date dropped!

[lincpimp]

I for one look forward to CCs new products. They seem to be ahead of the curve IMO. I am sure that the vast majority of the mmm systems will be purchased with the highest kv motor and run on 4s or (god forbid) a pair of venom 3300 stick packs! Most people out there have a hard time grasping lipo tech, that is why every issue of rcca and the others have some sort of lipo info in them. (on a side not I have read very little about balancers in the mags, so they have very little idea too, just like the bulk of the readers).

In any case the MMM will be 6s capable, most likely run cool, and have a variety of features that no other esc has now. Plus it will have customer support. And some sort of mass produced neu designed motor. I for one would like the middle kv motor and a 6s 4000 pack. Sounds like that would make an e-revo fly! As nice as hv is, it does pose some issues, mainly battery placement. Of course smaller cells can be used, but there is not a great selection of those at the moment. I like the maxamps 2100 cells, venom makes a good 2100 pack too. The flightpower cells are a bit longer, but may work too. Keep in mind that a 5s 5000 battery and a 10s 2100 battery have about the same output potential. And the 10s 2100 is cheaper and lighter.

[DrKnow65]

6S is actually a good number for me, I run my 1/10th 4wd buggy on 3S packs anyway so I could easily run two packs in series and have 6S 5000mah for my hyper7, that and the "neu style" motor with a rcm mount and some CF trays wold be a rocking combe till I can build an e-revo.

[Sammus]

Geez calm down mate, did you even read what I was responding to in my post that referred to the OS made dtx .18? I was just nitpicking on some semantics and stating the obvious that CC won't giving away their controller for free with a top of the line $300 Neu motor.

[starscream]

I have been very pleased racing with my HV110 on 8S A123's
I have easily completed a 15 min main on new packs so it will be interesting to see how long the A123's can continue to complete 15 minute races.

If the Monster Max can handle 28.8v than I would be willing to give it a try. Otherwise, I'll stick with the HV110 on 8S A123's until the HV Monster Max comes to fruition.

[lutach]

Higher voltage=lower amps. A few guys here understand that concept, but a lot still doesn't. 8-12S lipos will mean lower capacity packs. You can still use 4-6S lipos. AMPs is what causes most of the heat found in today's systems. Yes, we want a ESC capable of 20S, I'm trying to have one made that can handles 14S. Schulze for example has a good choice of controllers for every kind of application and you can't go wrong with the 40.160 and now they have a huge 300A controller (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/fut-xxl-e.htm) and a value controller line (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/prs22_d.htm). Schulze understand the market better then any other company out there and if a company is willing to risk who knows what with a monster like that, I would be following right behind them, but here in the USA. Even Jeti has a 300A controller, but it is only meant for the sky. Keep in my that the Thunder Power Performance Series Lithium's ( http://www.thunderpowerrc.com/html/h...rformance.html) are a bargain and if I can get 20 minutes out of 2200mAh in 6S imagine what 10S-12S 3700 or 4450mAh will do. It is a simple concept that a few people are finding difficulties understanding.

[team3six]

You guys got me all wrong. I wasnt being a dick about it, more like it was comical seeing everyone freak.
I talked to Joe after he posted here.
I think he wonders why he comes on the websites because of the banter before and after. Take what I said with a grain of salt. as I said befor it wasnt inteded towards everyone.

Ohh and yes I did read the whole thread. ever last word!
The DTX wasnt that bad, it was a cheap version made by O.S. specifically for the Duratrax.
and it was better than those japan made engines.
You can mod those to do something crazy in speed by the way. I know this because I have raced many Associated's with it and left them going oooh!
and just as Joe mentioned before. about the whole price tag! They expect to sell large quanities of them. That is what drives the price down. Im sure if you could buy a LOSI 8ight in walmarts and get the same quality, they would be cheaper too.
There is a possibilty that Horizon may just humor that possibility as I have heard through the grape vine.
Not an 8ight, but a lessor RC that would be more customer orientated.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lutach

Higher voltage=lower amps. A few guys here understand that concept, but a lot still doesn't. 8-12S lipos will mean lower capacity packs. You can still use 4-6S lipos. AMPs is what causes most of the heat found in today's systems. Yes, we want a ESC capable of 20S, I'm trying to have one made that can handles 14S. Schulze for example has a good choice of controllers for every kind of application and you can't go wrong with the 40.160 and now they have a huge 300A controller (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/fut-xxl-e.htm) and a value controller line (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/prs22_d.htm). Schulze understand the market better then any other company out there and if a company is willing to risk who knows what with a monster like that, I would be following right behind them, but here in the USA. Even Jeti has a 300A controller, but it is only meant for the sky. Keep in my that the Thunder Power Performance Series Lithium's ( http://www.thunderpowerrc.com/html/h...rformance.html) are a bargain and if I can get 20 minutes out of 2200mAh in 6S imagine what 10S-12S 3700 or 4450mAh will do. It is a simple concept that a few people are finding difficulties understanding.

I like using higher voltage because it reduces the amount of heat from high current draw and it allows the use of lower C rated batteries such as 10-15C Lipo's and really helps A123's, not to mention that I have always seemed to get better run times with higher voltage systems.

We don't have to image what you'll get from 12S 3700mAh or 4450mAh.
Setup properly, you should get over 33.6 minutes on the 3700's and over 40.45 min on the 4450mAh packs

[sleebus.jones]

Originally Posted by team3six

You guys got me all wrong. I wasnt being a dick about it, more like it was comical seeing everyone freak.

Everyone freaked? Where? Methinks you flatter yourself too much.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand...

[jacobsjo87]

I have read all these posts, but none really mention what the MMM is. From what I understand the MMM will be 6s lipo capable. Thats about all I can find. Can someone provide a link to some info on the MMM.

Thanks,
Josh

[MTBikerTim]

I get so excited every time this thread gets brought back up. One day the new post will say ITS HERE!!!!!

The MMM is the Mamba Monster Max. Basically the big brother to the Mamba Max. Rated to 6s twice the cells of the MM and a high amp rating. Also it will be specifically for cars with car software and a motor designed for cars too. The motor should be a great motor as it a slightly modified Neu and it should all come for a reasonable price tag as well.

[pipeous]

Originally Posted by Joe Ford

Here I am.

And for those that are looking for specs, here ya go. The MMM should be available in March. We're waiting on the things that are out of our hands right now. Boards, cases, boxes, manuals, etc. It'll be able to handle up to 6s lipo and 200A continuous. It'll also have our Castle BEC switching regulator integrated into the controller so you'll be able to dial your output voltage to your servo(s) to anything you want between 4.8v and 9v in 0.1v increments. The motors we've licensed from Steve Neu (arguably the best motors in the world). Total cost of the combo should be around $300. If any of you want to be notified when it's released shoot me an email at support@castlecreations.com and I'll add you to the list. When it's released you'll get an email from yours truly. :)

next page Joe said
"Look above for ESC specs. Motor specs have not been finalized but rough kv's are 2200, 1750, and 1550. We're not saying exactly which date guys...we can't see the future. "

[Joe Ford]

Gents...an update for you all. Pass the word along. We are only going to have one motor kv available for the Monster Max. We found that during testing you could get anywhere from 30-65mph+ by just changing voltage or gearing. The motor is 2200kv, and should suit everyone's needs. Sorry to those who were hoping for the 1750 and 1550...I wanted the 1550 myself. :(

[lutach]

Originally Posted by Joe Ford

Gents...an update for you all. Pass the word along. We are only going to have one motor kv available for the Monster Max. We found that during testing you could get anywhere from 30-65mph+ by just changing voltage or gearing. The motor is 2200kv, and should suit everyone's needs. Sorry to those who were hoping for the 1750 and 1550...I wanted the 1550 myself. :(

What about the controller alone? I have plenty of motors. Have you guys done any testing with the larger 1521 Neu motors? How about a 6 pole Mega motor? I don't mean to put you on the spot here, but I think a few of us would like to know which motors have you tested the Monster Max with and what were the results?

[snellemin]

Aah yes, the controller alone is what I need mostly. Will there be a offering for the ESC alone in march?

[Joe Ford]

We will be offering the ESC separately. The software that will be on the controller is the same as the software currently available for the Mamba Max (v1.17). Any motor that will run on it will run on a Monster.