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03.30.2008, 02:47 PM

hmm sucks about the velenion for you, i have the 5000 3s, and i run the whole pack which is about 30 mins and its definatly warm to hot, but not to the state of thermaling, thats also running stock gearing which is good for 56mph, bump it down a bit and it goes forever, but i agree about the mm, i have that in my revo and its awesome! i love plugging it into the computer, makes you feel like your doing surgery to it or something
   
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I may have had a bad example. The velineon seems to be a bit power hungry on 3s. I did not get that kind of speed out of my rustler. I will say that the feigao/mm setup had about the same power, but seemed to be more effecient. I would like to pit a vxl pede to the aveox powered one to see how it compares.
   
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I may have had a bad example. The velineon seems to be a bit power hungry on 3s. I did not get that kind of speed out of my rustler. I will say that the feigao/mm setup had about the same power, but seemed to be more effecient. I would like to pit a vxl pede to the aveox powered one to see how it compares.
Yeah, you must have gotten a lemon because I got my vxl to run 65.4 mph on a Maxamps 5000mah 3s with the optional pinion that comes with it (I think it's 28 teeth) and it never got over about 150-160 degrees. The run times were about 40 mins to. It runs so long I only hit the lvc two or three times since I got it.

Maybe your battery had something to do with it because mine came with a 6 cell IB 3600 pack and it got way hot on the esc and motor with that battery. I think it actually thermaled with that battery if I remember correctly and that was actually with the smaller stock pinion.
   
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Yeah, you must have gotten a lemon because I got my vxl to run 65.4 mph on a Maxamps 5000mah 3s with the optional pinion that comes with it (I think it's 28 teeth) and it never got over about 150-160 degrees. The run times were about 40 mins to. It runs so long I only hit the lvc two or three times since I got it.

Maybe your battery had something to do with it because mine came with a 6 cell IB 3600 pack and it got way hot on the esc and motor with that battery. I think it actually thermaled with that battery if I remember correctly and that was actually with the smaller stock pinion.
Hey Jerry, did you happen to buy that rustler from a crazy guy at a body shop in Slidell? That was me, I am that crazy guy! Glad that you have had more luck than I did.

All I can think is that the velineon system is very power hungry, and does not like weak batteries. I was using a maxamps pack, 3s 4000, and we all know how well maxamps packs do with high power stuff (makes farty noise with mouth). It worked fine in my pede with the mm and the 12s feigao. And the performance was better with the mm/feigao combo. All I can think is that I may have found the sweat spot with that setup. I did not test the velineon that much, as I really did not care for it, and figured that it would sell better before I thrashed for testing purposes. I have a vxl pede now, but it has a sidewinder/aveox combo.
   
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Hey Jerry, did you happen to buy that rustler from a crazy guy at a body shop in Slidell? That was me, I am that crazy guy! Glad that you have had more luck than I did.
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All I can think is that the velineon system is very power hungry, and does not like weak batteries. I was using a maxamps pack, 3s 4000, and we all know how well maxamps packs do with high power stuff (makes farty noise with mouth). It worked fine in my pede with the mm and the 12s feigao. And the performance was better with the mm/feigao combo. All I can think is that I may have found the sweat spot with that setup. I did not test the velineon that much, as I really did not care for it, and figured that it would sell better before I thrashed for testing purposes. I have a vxl pede now, but it has a sidewinder/aveox combo.
I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. I prefer the VXL system for the most part because I still use the stock radios (for now anyway) and I don't get very good range at all from my MM RCs. As far as all the settings on the MM most of the time when I end up playing with them I end up mimicking the VXL. The only way you can really tell which ESC is in the RC is listen for the beep every 20 seconds or see if it goes more than 2 house lengths without going out of range.
   
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I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. I prefer the VXL system for the most part because I still use the stock radios (for now anyway) and I don't get very good range at all from my MM RCs. As far as all the settings on the MM most of the time when I end up playing with them I end up mimicking the VXL. The only way you can really tell which ESC is in the RC is listen for the beep every 20 seconds or see if it goes more than 2 house lengths without going out of range.

To each his own, glad that you are enjoying it!
   
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I guess it's all in the eye of the beholder. I prefer the VXL system for the most part because I still use the stock radios (for now anyway) and I don't get very good range at all from my MM RCs. As far as all the settings on the MM most of the time when I end up playing with them I end up mimicking the VXL. The only way you can really tell which ESC is in the RC is listen for the beep every 20 seconds or see if it goes more than 2 house lengths without going out of range.
I couldnt wait to get rid of the VXL system off of my Rustler...much happier with the MM/Feigao
   
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I couldnt wait to get rid of the VXL system off of my Rustler...much happier with the MM/Feigao
I'm glad you found something that works for you. It just got a little old for me trying to run a car that does over 60 mph in an area that is so small. Like lincpimp said "to each his own."
   
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